Getting right pi**ed off with this mixing lark help needed

[River]

Right problems im having are

If i want to make 30ml of 80vg/20pg mix when i calculate it tells me not enough i need more pg? im using 72mg vg nic
also if the vg im adding has 10% distilled water already added how do i enter that on the claculator

Thanks

I should add im trying to get 3mg @80vg/20pg

[Pepperty]

Concentrates are the pg portion, I don't think the aqueous (watered down vg) makes any difference to your vg nic base - whatever it says is needed as plain pg, just make it vg... it'll vape fine River  I am assuming you have no pg...........?

What percentage -of overall- does you concentrates (combined) make to your mix?

[Postmodern Smoking]

As Pepperty says your concentrates will contribute to the PG component.
Re. AVG just assume that it is VG for calculator purposes.

What percentage of flavour are you trying to add River?

[River]

Sept 1, 2015 16:25:00 GMT Postmodern Smoking said:

As Pepperty says your concentrates will contribute to the PG component.
Re. AVG just assume that it is VG for calculator purposes.

What percentage of flavour are you trying to add River?

1 flavour @33%

[Q]

Well there's your answer, if your concentrate is PG based the best you can get is 67VG/PG33
Does seems rather a higher concentration though, what recipe is it?

[Postmodern Smoking]

Sept 1, 2015 16:29:49 GMT River said:

Sept 1, 2015 16:25:00 GMT Postmodern Smoking said:

As Pepperty says your concentrates will contribute to the PG component.
Re. AVG just assume that it is VG for calculator purposes.

What percentage of flavour are you trying to add River?

1 flavour @33%

The reason that you are getting the error with the calculator is that you cannot achieve 80VG/20PG, as even if adding no more plain PG your flavours are contributing to 33%PG

The highest VG/PG ratio that you can achieve is 67VG/33PG

For a 30ml mix this will require:

1.25ml of 72mg/ml Nic in VG
18.85ml of plain VG or AVG
9.9ml of flavourings.


Note: 33% flavour is pretty high!



ETA] spelling

[ausfost]

That's very high % of concentrate, what flavour/brand are you using?

[River]

Pixie juice strawberry & custard dodge.........thats the concentrate reccomendation

[Postmodern Smoking]

Ok.... if you want to mix it at that strength you'll have to compromise on your VG/PG level, as suggested.

If it was me, I'd try making up say 5 or 10ml first at a weaker strength, especially if you are using a third generation device. (Many of Pixie's juices were developed in the days of the CE4 clearomiser)
I'd try 20% flavour first, that way you can achieve your 80/20 VG/PG ratio... and hopefully will still be flavoursome enough. (As well as save your concentrate!)

ETA] -

If you want to try it at 20% and make a 10ml tester:

0.4ml of 72mg/ml nic in VG
7.6ml of VG or AVG
2ml of flavour

This will give you 80/20 VG/PG, 3mg/ml nic and 20% flavour

[Perpetua]

25% I've mixed Pixie's ready concentrates at if that's any help to you River . . . . . they've been tasty enough for me at that percentage.

[River]

Sept 1, 2015 19:04:22 GMT Perpetua said:

25% I've mixed Pixie's ready concentrates at if that's any help to you River . . . . . they've been tasty enough for me at that percentage.

Thanks Perp ill give it a go

[Postmodern Smoking]

Sept 1, 2015 19:12:53 GMT River said:

Sept 1, 2015 19:04:22 GMT Perpetua said:

25% I've mixed Pixie's ready concentrates at if that's any help to you River . . . . . they've been tasty enough for me at that percentage.

Thanks Perp ill give it a go

If you want to try Perp's 25% flavour (and she likes things strong  ), you'll be able to get a max VG/PG ratio of 75/25 with VG nic.

For a 10ml tester:

0.4ml of 72mg/ml nic in VG
7.1ml of VG or AVG
2.5ml of flavour

This will give you 10ml of 75/25 VG/PG, 3mg/ml nic and 25% flavour

[River]

Sept 1, 2015 19:22:21 GMT Postmodern Smoking said:

Sept 1, 2015 19:12:53 GMT River said:

Thanks Perp ill give it a go

If you want to try Perp's 25% flavour (and she likes things strong  ), you'll be able to get a max VG/PG ratio of 75/25 with VG nic.

For a 10ml tester:

0.4ml of 72mg/ml nic in VG
7.1ml of VG or AVG
2.5ml of flavour

This will give you 10ml of 75/25 VG/PG, 3mg/ml nic and 25% flavour

Thanks for that
Wish me luck

[Postmodern Smoking]

Sept 1, 2015 19:25:43 GMT River said:

Thanks for that
Wish me luck

Just squirt the above into a bottle, give it a good shake, and if you can wait a few days .... hey presto!