Vapouriz New Vendor

[prepareathome]

Being a total newbie I have not got my head round battery sizes or things like that but just want to say your e-cigs do look really nice, the kind of thing you would be happy seeing out and about with, very smart really. Think I will treat myself to a disposable as cannot afford another new kit but would like to see what the taste of your e-liquid is like.

[DiscoDes]

Feb 14, 2012 10:31:23 GMT aaron said:

in response to Discodes, the price of the Tornado tank on their site is £59.99 - ours is £49.99 - 20% cheaper.
(http://www.theelectroniccigarette.co.uk/products/tornado-tank-2-products.html)

Perhaps you meant the older EGO model?

We have priced our eliquid to be competitive - UK suppliers such as TW charge £19.99 for eliquid, Liberro £12.80, but we may look at reducing the costs slightly in the coming couple of months.

Not wishing to "split hairs" the price I got was from Totally Wicked not TECC here www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/tornado-tank-ecig/tornado-tank-e-nic-kit-brushed-steel-2-product.html it is selling today at £44.99 + P&P, but here's another example www.vapeescape.co.uk/ego-t-900-carry-case-kit-%2A%2Atwo-complete-devices%2A%2A~119 £39.95 then there is a code to get an extra 10% off this price and it is the larger 900 mAh batteries and comes with a carry case.


Experienced vapers know that goods from TW and Liberro is often 25 - 30% more expensive than elsewhere. But on second thoughts your eliquid for 30ml is not too bad a price, once again from the supplier in my previous link their price is the same as yours but once again there is a 10% discount code, also I know it is hangsen juice and has a detailed description. People are picky about the provenance of the E-liquid. Perhaps you'd consider some sort of offer like a discount code or buy 2 get one free etc?

[aaron]

Thanks for the positive feedback Des, we appreciate all feedback negative or positive. We will be looking into discount codes and will be implementing this from the beginning of April.

Prepareathome :- Thank you for your comments, we have put a lot of thought and effort into our packaging and branding and it is always nice when we receive comments like yours. We hope that you will enjoy our disposable e-cigarette and look forward to any feedback that you may have about it.

[DiscoDes]

You could invite people to post reviews of your e-liquid to your site and by way of thanks offer a discount for posted reviews.

[aaron]

DiscoDes :- On our new website we potentially might be implementing a forum there also, along with reviews and feedback from customers.

[stanton]

'no whiffs or butts' ! haha. like it.

[gizmondothefirst]

Do you have a shop front, or is it purely online ordering only?
Love the website. Cant think of anything other than whats been said before.
Is M brand a close replica to Marlboro? Do you have any future plans to offer a wider selection of ejuice?

[aaron]

haha thanks stanton, trademarked as well! So expect to see our trademark in the near future

[aaron]

Feb 14, 2012 15:18:55 GMT gizmondothefirst said:

Do you have a shop front, or is it purely online ordering only?
Love the website. Cant think of anything other than whats been said before.
Is M brand a close replica to Marlboro? Do you have any future plans to offer a wider selection of ejuice?

We do not have a shop front as of yet. We are thinking about the idea but that won't come into play until next year as it is not in our initial plans just yet.

The M brand is a replica to Marlboro yes. Yes we do have big plans for E-liquid in the foreseable future and it won't be long until our plans become clear.

[Gordy]

Feb 14, 2012 16:30:03 GMT aaron said:

haha thanks stanton, trademarked as well! So expect to see our trademark in the near future

that phrase is the tag line for world vaping day too

[stanton]

www.nowhiffsnobutts.co.uk/

[aaron]

Feb 14, 2012 18:30:14 GMT Gordy said:

Feb 14, 2012 16:30:03 GMT aaron said:

haha thanks stanton, trademarked as well! So expect to see our trademark in the near future

that phrase is the tag line for world vaping day too

Whereabouts did you see this? I had a look on the website I cannot see anything on there.

Thanks for letting us know though!

[aaron]

Feb 15, 2012 9:51:28 GMT stanton said:

www.nowhiffsnobutts.co.uk/

Thanks for the concern regarding this website!

[hifistud]

Feb 14, 2012 9:56:54 GMT aaron said:

Okay, we will do some extensive testing. I see E-lites claim their disposable has the equiervalent to 30 cigarettes, what are your thoughts on that?

I was quite vocal on the Haze Hour about it. Very simply put, there is no way on God's green earth that anything under 1ml of juice can possibly be equivalent to anything higher than ten normal cigarettes. You can publish all the automated machine puff tests you like, it doesn't change that fact that a) the battery simply doesn't have enough power to last a 30 a day smoker a full day and b) we know from experience that a 30 a day smoker is going to want around 4ml of juice - and that at 24mg or better, in all likelihood. Your claim of 50-60 is just completely daft. I was a 60 a day smoker and I get through around 10ml of 36mg a day. No way will one Vapouriz disposable, no matter jow good, get me through a day (for reference, the one I got lasted me a couple of hours).

I issued a challenge in that programme - I challenged all the inflated ciggy-equivalent vendors to bring their "30, 40 or 50 fag-equivalent" devices to my place, after first confirming how many ordinary fags they smoked a day. I'm telling you now that none - none - have taken up the challenge. They know fine well their battery would be exhausted after around six to eight hours of normal (for a 20 a day smoker) usage, and they'd be climbing up the walls after that.

The thing is, there are some quite capable disposables out there, and the Vapouriz is one of them. But to claim anything like30 or more fags in it is arrant nonsense. It's good for around ten fags, and should be priced accordingly.

Bottom line here is simple. A newbie will purchase a disposable that's touted as being worth 50 fags (or 30 or 40) and find that it doesn't last them as long as that number of fags would. How do they then view e-cigs as a whole? As a scam, that's how, sold by snake-oil salesmen who inflate claims and come across as far from honest.

Apparently, it's rumoured that one of the supermarkets has been inundated with folks taking back units they bought there because they didn't live up to the claims, so, reportedly, they've suspended sale of the units. Go figure.

The Vapouriz branded disposable is one of the better ones out there - there's no need to inflate claims of ciggy equivalence. Simply price it at around £4, get it in lots of shops and watch it take off. That's all it needs.

Also, I see that it started at £9.95, dropped to £5.95 and is now up at £7.99?? At £5.95 it was in the ballpark. At £7.99 it's not.

[aaron]

In reply to Hifistud (David), hi David, Brett here. Firstly i would like to say thank you for your continuing input and the positive (but honest) reviews of the Vapouriz Disposable and Vapouriz Tank over the last few months.

Whilst I completely disagree with your estimation of 10 cigarettes (I have seen your 'drags' online David ) ) - it really depends on the person using it. I was a 20 a day smoker and i used one of the disposables over a 2 day period - and the e liquid ran out before the battery did. In addition when the product was first received into stock, we had a few people testing it for its longevity and most people found it lasted them two days. It really depends how much it gets used.

Now in terms of cost, it would be wonderful to be able to offer the disposable at £4.00, however, please bear this in mind. When selling products there is the following to take into consideration:

Cost of product
Shipping
VAT
Import Duty
Rent
Rates
Telephone Bills
Internet cost
IT Equipment & Support
Staff (wages, NI, etc)
Marketing
Website
Search Engine Optimisation
Insurance
and more.....

If we offered this product at less than £7.99 then we wouldnt make a profit and there would be no point in being in business.

Also, naming no names - a large supermarket chain wanted to stock our disposable, but we actually declined; due to them (a) dicating the margin and (b) trying to dictate the selling cost. I wont even mention the payment terms offered!

Bottom line is this: I am trying to run a successful business, but i wont compromise on quality to offer inferior products at a cheaper price.

Brett Horth
CEO
Vapouriz.com