Vapouriz New Vendor

[hifistud]

There are some issues here - and before I go too far into it, let me first say that I have no problem at all with the Vapouriz kit I've seen. The disposable is without doubt one of the best out there, and the T system sports a very nice atomiser.

Here's the thing, though. A battery of finite size can only contain a finite amount of electricity. That electricity is only capable of heating an element for so long - ergo, the number and length of draws is, scientifically speaking, irrelevant. The charge contained within the battery will heat a given element at a given temperature for a given length of time, and no more. Indeed, the battery will waste charge heating an element from cold, so a longer draw, in fact, is more efficient in terms of charge. But the bottom line is that the total combined time of all the draws before the battery is depleted is limited by the charge the battery contains - and in the case of a 250mAH battery maxes out at around 5C, meaning that its combined runtime total is in the region of ten minutes. that is around 150 draws, max 300 if you use a two-second automated puffing machine. There is just no way that can realistically equate to 50-60 tobacco cigarettes.

All of that said, the Vapouriz disposable itself ticks all of my boxes - it's easily differentiated from a real fag, it's a manual, so more controllable, it produces well for a small device and the vapour is really quite good. On that basis, it does not need to be over-hyped.

[stanton]

it's not thermostatic. it doesn't conserve energy when its hot.
but you mean the draw is more efficient? yes, i'll go with that. wicking allowing.
5C?

[hifistud]

Feb 17, 2012 0:37:27 GMT stanton said:

it's not thermostatic. it doesn't conserve energy when its hot.
but you mean the draw is more efficient? yes, i'll go with that. wicking allowing.
5C?

What I mean is that less energy is used heating up a still warm coil to vapourising temperature than is used heating up a stone cold coil to the same temperature, or maintaining that temperature - so one four-second draw uses less energy that two two-second draws five minutes apart...

5C refers to the discharge rate. a 250mAH battery, if discharged over an hour, would be running at 1C - implying a current of 0.25 amps. Since a 3 Ohm atty/carto would pull closer to 1.25 amps, it's operating at 5C, which, given the capacity losses of such a relatively high discharge rate (for the size of battery) equates to around ten minutes of actual use.

[stanton]

coulomb?
1mAh=3.6C
x250=900C
/60*60=0.25C/s=.25A.s/s=.25A
if discharged over 1hr
but it will discharge over 900C*(1/1.25)=720s=12mins?

but surely the same energy is flowing whether the coil is hot or not?
unless we're talking about temperature dependant resistance.
am i going off topic a tad? i'z tired now.

[Perpetua]

Feb 17, 2012 2:26:14 GMT stanton said:

am i going off topic a tad? i'z tired now.

I'm not surprised . . . do you people never sleep Aaron?!

[stanton]

i'm not aaron.
i sleeps about 5 hours a day at the min.
must get more.

[hifistud]

No - not coulomb - "C" is discharge rate as a function of battery capacity. So a 1000mAH battery fully discharging over one hour will be discharging at 1C. If it discharged full in 10 hours, it would be running at 0.1C and if it discharged fully in ten minutes, it would be running at 6C (basically - it's actually a little more complex, but it's close enough).

Feb 17, 2012 2:26:14 GMT stanton said:

coulomb?
1mAh=3.6C
x250=900C
/60*60=0.25C/s=.25A.s/s=.25A
if discharged over 1hr
but it will discharge over 900C*(1/1.25)=720s=12mins?

but surely the same energy is flowing whether the coil is hot or not?
unless we're talking about temperature dependant resistance.
am i going off topic a tad? i'z tired now.

[stanton]

yeh, i got it.
we don't normally get C rates with our batteries tho. i reckon the coulomb calculation should come pretty close in all cases. (for new batt).

[hifistud]

That's a good point - every Li-ion battery, of whichever chemistry, should really be marked with its "C" rating and for those who may be a tad hard of thinking, its max current draw, in amps. - or milliamps. Either way, people need to know.

[stanton]

Feb 19, 2012 12:29:53 GMT hifistud said:

... and for those who may be a tad hard of thinking,

hahaha

[aaron]

what is Sleep perpetua?

[Perpetua]

Feb 20, 2012 10:33:07 GMT aaron said:

what is Sleep perpetua?

Something that can be in short supply if you're Self Employed Aaron . . . been there and done that for 20 years.

[aaron]

Very true Perp

Vapouriz's brand new e-commerce website is going live tomorrow evening. Also the disposable has been rigourously tested and it has achieved the equivalent of 40 cigarettes (400 puffs). Also the Mini has been tested and has achieved over 10 cigarettes per cartridge. With 10 cartridges per pack we can proudly promote the Mini as offering over 100 cigarettes per starter kit. Also you can buy an extra 100 'cigarettes' for £7.99. Great Value!

Keep a look out for the new website and any feedback would be much appreciated as always.

[aaron]

I believe the starter kit offers better value than any other e-cigarette supplier in the market on this starter kit. Also we are very competitivly priced with premium quality offered as standard.

[aaron]

Vapouriz is now stocking a new range of E-liquid. We have a few different flavours that we are trying out including:

Red Cow (Redbull flavour with caffine)
Apple
Fruit Salad (Punch)
Milk Chocolate
Vanilla
Strawberry
Menthol Special Blend
Malibu & Cola.... and last but not least! .....

Sweet Cherry

You can find our E-Liquids on our website at

www.vapouriz.com under the E-liquids tab.

Hope you will take a look and see what suits your fancy.

If you have any suggestions / ideas for different flavour we would be more than happy to hear your thoughts.