Ingredients in e liquid?

[ragjoy]

i dont think you did word it badly, i knew exactly what you meant.
some choose to see other things when anything is written.
your comments could be described at worst disparaging but in no way racist.
the way things are going you wont be able to remark on anything without someone telling you how they wish to hear it.

raggy............

[maccafan]

I think he did word it badly...It's a careless and disparaging remark against a continent though I did not think it was racist. He has apologized and explained that he did not mean it and that's pretty decent though I wish he would break up his sentences with a few full stops, paragraphs and commas simply because it is very hard to read what is written. It wasn't a Chinese e-cig that almost set fire to his sofa and burnt his fingers. It was carelessness and a lack of protection in the mod, something that cost upwards of a £150.00. It wasn't a Chinese mod that blew up in the man's face in Florida. It was carelessness and a Made in USA Puresmoker product. So the "dangerous" products that the Chinese manufacture are pretty much just perception and a wrong one at that.

The way things always were is you remark on something and chances are someone will tell you how they wish to hear it even if it is your own wife. That's the way the world works.

If people are so suspicious of the quality of products from China, I can only suggest to stop buying AW batteries which, unfortunately for some, are also made in China. And so are most of the electronics stuff scattered inside everyone home including one's favourite telly, mobile etc., etc., I suspect.

Anyway here is a picture of the label from the Hangsen premium range showing a list of ingredients. I haven't seen anything like that list on any Dekang bottles- or any other bottles that I have crossed paths with for that matter- I bought from Healthcabin and the US. Maybe that has changed with the new Silver and Gold label bottles.

[jayjay]

though I wish he would break up his sentences with a few full stops, paragraphs and commas simply because it is very hard to read what is written.


Sorry I've said before, I have no pc at present and I've a bug on my phone which won't allow me to move cursor and correct my spelling. The same bug won't allow me to hit enter to drop the cursor down and create paragraphs. I didn't realise it was as difficult to read.

Ok, if a product was bought in the eu, made in the eu, or America, and was dangerous, and i was injured, I would have a good chance of a successful prosecution against that company, manufacturer or person who made it. If that was the route I chose to take.

If that product was made in china however, by a chinese company, I'd have a chance that was zero against the Chinese manufacter. If a eu or us distributor was involved, then only that would be my get out of jail card, and the distributor would take the pain. Not the chinese manufacturer.

It's not a false perception about Chinese manufactured goods. They are by far the biggest origin of dangerous goods trying to be sold in either the eu or us. that doesn't mean all Chinese goods are bad. As you point out, many western companies have set up shop in china and use western quality control standards. And I'm sure there are many top notch Chinese companies exceeding even them. The company you mention is a shining example of just that. Providing its legit.

But I like to check everything that could be harmful to me. No matter where its made. Then I can make a decision. Vaping has a lot to do with trust. It Might be good, it might be bad, who really knows. It's a risk I choose to take but given the problems I've mentioned above, shouldnt it be ok to probe a little further when it comes to Chinese goods?

Japan had the same issues 40 years ago. Now they have made the transition to mature economy. With quality control and production means equivalent to ours or better. I'm unsure to be honest how Japan made it. But I'd be surprised if they done it without rule of law, allowing a free market to take its course. Or using a wall of silence or censorship.





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[maccafan]

There is a simple solution ..Don't buy if you are that suspicious of Chinese goods which you think are of a dubious nature and you want to be able to take action against those who sold you a dangerous product. Filed a lawsuit against Imeo for the GG that burnt your hand and almost set fire to your surroundings yet?

If you think batteries don't go thermal in a Provari, well, that's what you think.

BTW 80-90% of the e-juice sold in the world is of Chinese manufacture..Don't forget that 2/3rds of the world's population live in Asia and almost everything you buy by way of electronics, medicines and software comes from there..

[jayjay]

Aug 17, 2012 20:48:59 GMT maccafan said:

There is a simple solution ..Don't buy if you are that suspicious of Chinese goods which you think are of a dubious nature and you want to be able to take action against those who sold you a dangerous product. Filed a lawsuit against Imeo for the GG that burnt your hand and almost set fire to your surroundings yet?

If you think batteries don't go thermal in a Provari, well, that's what you think.

BTW 80-90% of the e-juice sold in the world is of Chinese manufacture..Don't forget that 2/3rds of the world's population live in Asia and almost everything you buy by way of electronics, medicines and software comes from there..

No I haven't filed a lawsuit against imeo! Nor shall I in a million years. Thats no way what i meant. My point is macca, i could if I wanted to. For all it's faults that doesn't make this country bad. It's a good thing. and it's a bad thing there isn't the accountability in production elsewhere in the world. That was my point. If there is zero accountability then why not ask questions. Even Law firms have abandoned even attempting to sue Chinese manufactures.

my provari may go thermal with aw batteries, it's all a risk. In which case the Japanese company will stand to account that made the safety features if that's the road I choose to take.

I won't use 80 90 percent of ejiuce, at present I only use organic for what that's worth.

And I know what the percentages are of Asians. I'm mixed race like I said earlier.

Good night people

[vaperman]

Aug 17, 2012 21:09:39 GMT jayjay said:

at present I only use organic for what that's worth.

Where from? Do you know the ingredients?

[Fog On The Tyne Ltd]

The quality control on China's latest e-cig looks fairly decent.

[ragjoy]

what is it with this thread, the bloke asks a simple question yet he has defend and explain his every reasoning to you, while you either take the piss or berate him and imply he is racist.
only too find he his asian, his phone is broke and he likes to know what he is buying.

raggy.............

[Anne (fuzzy)]

Can I put my two penny worth in please?

I've probably tried every make of juice there is going and don't care where it's come from. I'm still alive (I think) so I must be OK.
If it tastes nice (to me, taste is subjective) I buy it again, if it tastes horrible I don't. No problems.

[maccafan]

Aug 17, 2012 22:15:56 GMT Anne (fuzzy) said:

Can I put my two penny worth in please?

I've probably tried every make of juice there is going and don't care where it's come from. I'm still alive (I think) so I must be OK.
If it tastes nice (to me, taste is subjective) I buy it again, if it tastes horrible I don't. No problems.

Oh but but..

The Nicaraguan tobacco growers are using under paid labourers to harvest tobacco leaves to make flavouring that goes in your juice and the Government is taking backhanders to allow it to happen..

[Anne (fuzzy)]

Disgraceful

[vaperman]

Aug 17, 2012 22:07:10 GMT ragjoy said:

what is it with this thread, the bloke asks a simple question yet he has defend and explain his every reasoning to you, while you either take the piss or berate him and imply he is racist.
only too find he his asian, his phone is broke and he likes to know what he is buying.

raggy.............

I just asked a simple question, Where he buys his e-juice from and what the Ingredients are, Is that a problem?

[alanfinal]

Jay Jay I like the look of this,sold by a Vendor on here and made by virgin vapours,although it may not have the contents on the bottle their web site goes out of the way to say whats in them and why they chose to do an organic range.



Looks scrummy and not a bad price considering

[Perpetua]

Can we keep the discussion on topic and not personal please.

Ta.

[Dream (s)]

I AGREE WITH RAGJOY!

I agree, it's obvious what he ment by saying "Asians" C'mon please I haven't been in the vaping world that long but, I'm sure I read somewhere (can't remember where) to be careful in buying certain liquids from china and I'm not talking about Dekan or hangsten....let's all be civilised on here and understand each other and not attack!



God, it's threads like this that makes one keep their mouth shut and not ask questions!

Even more like GET OFF THE FORUM, DELETE ACCOUNT, LIKE BYE BYE!!!!!

This thread is a total disgrace and I am very dissapointed in what I've witnessed here! The thread has been twisted!