Refilling penny.

[jayjay]

Hi, I'm embarrassed to say I've another penny question. I've done as much reading as I can, but can't find an answer that's helping me.

The penny is great. But refilling gives me ten mins of grief. I get gurgling, mouth fulls of juice. I'm clearly flooding it.

I keep the juice control shut pretty much the whole time whilst vaping, maybe ill give it a half turn open if it starts to feel dry.

Reloading, ill take it off penny. Turn upside down. Make sure juice control is shut. Turn right way up. Fill slowly, (may see some drops appearing at bottom of penny at this point) replace cap slowly. (i usually see drops coming out of bottom of penny at this point).

vape, gurgle, spit, Zero vaper, take apart, blow through, vape gurgle. All this time juice control is shut.

Anyone got a clue?
Thanks

[Ellen]

The only thing I can see that I do different is that I don't turn it upside down before I refil it. Are you doing that with the juice control still open?

[steve386]

Are you unscrewing the top filling cap?

I do that and then slowly pour the juice down the side of the mouth piece, while holding the Penelope at a slight angle. Only takes a few seconds to fill.

Steve.

[jayjay]

Sept 1, 2012 13:02:23 GMT steve386 said:

Are you unscrewing the top filling cap?

I do that and then slowly pour the juice down the side of the mouth piece, while holding the Penelope at a slight angle. Only takes a few seconds to fill.

Steve.

Yeah I'm unscrewing that cap and dripping down the mouth piece like you showed me at fest.
Then slowly putting that cap back on.

[jayjay]

And I dont over fill it. I dont have it so I can even see the juice approaching the top last few times. But its still flooding.

[blakey]

jay, elimination time

Are you turning penelope upside down and closing the juice control whilst it's still upside down? That's what you need to do
Is the locking ring wound down securely inside and without any wick trapped between it and the base?
Is the Juice control trapping wick or wire between itself and the locking ring?
Are you replacing the top cap slowly to avoid pressure build up within that'll force the juice into the ceramic?

And silly as it sounds, When you unscrew the top cap to refill, are you holding the mouthpiece with your thumb to stop it from turning with the top cap?

[jayjay]

Sept 1, 2012 16:07:32 GMT blakey said:

jay, elimination time

Are you turning penelope upside down and closing the juice control whilst it's still upside down? That's what you need to do
Is the locking ring wound down securely inside and without any wick trapped between it and the base?
Is the Juice control trapping wick or wire between itself and the locking ring?
Are you replacing the top cap slowly to avoid pressure build up within that'll force the juice into the ceramic?

And silly as it sounds, When you unscrew the top cap to refill, are you holding the mouthpiece with your thumb to stop it from turning with the top cap?

Are you turning penelope upside down and closing the juice control whilst it's still upside down? That's what you need to do.

Yes.



Is the locking ring wound down securely inside and without any wick trapped between it and the base?

securley tightened down, yes. Wick in way, no. but wire in way, yes as shown here.



Can't see it too well, but locking ring is flush with base round the other side, small gap this side. But I mean tiny gap, maybe half a mm. But ain't that wire meant to be trapped there?



Is the Juice control trapping wick or wire between itself and the locking ring? No

Are you replacing the top cap slowly to avoid pressure build up within that'll force the juice into the ceramic?
Yes, I'm replacing that to cap very slowly.

What you think?
Cheers

[blakey]

No wire is meant to be trapped between that locking ring and the base jay, that's why the new ceramic housings were designed with metal down one side. The slightest of gaps will cause leaks mate. It would seem that that's where your problems lie.

[VE Jason]

I was going to say that...Tut

[blakey]

Sept 1, 2012 18:07:34 GMT VE Jason said:

I was going to say that...Tut

::)To$$er

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[blakey]

Have a look here jay



The wire is just sitting in the metal channel behind the wick, that's all it needs to make a good contact mate
The wick holds it firm, I tend to bend the end of the wire back up to make a V inside the channel.

Trapping that wire between the base and the lock ring is what caused all the leaking issues on the old style ody.

[VE Jason]

I was going to put that picture up...Tut

Step aside Blakey - there's a new expert on the block

[jayjay]

Hmmm,

Well I've put that wire straight down the channel. Dried out the wick with tissue. Ensured no juice in the ceramic. Tightened the locking ring flush.

Then I put it back together, ensuring the juice control was closed.

started to slowly drip my juice down the side of the mouth piece, and with the top cap off, she started to drip through the centre post as I'm filling her up.
Maybe a dozen drops came out the bottom.



I waited till it stopped dripping, and then slowly put that to cap on. Another couple of drips came out.


Then slapped her ontop of the provari, little gurgle still, weak vapour still, but no mouthful of juice just yet.

Right seems better, but not great?

[jayjay]

No, now I'm getting the mouthfuls of juice. ???

[blakey]

Jay, the only possible way juice can get in that ceramic is if there's a gap either between the mouthpiece and locking ring or locking ring and base.