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Post by ciar on Sept 4, 2012 14:32:10 GMT
Only ones that seem to have a problem with e-cigs, are the drug companies and tobacco companies, and any other idiot that has no clue how useful they are...
two of my friends came to visit my daughter last week, both asked me about e-cigs i lent one of them a battery charger a v3 and gave him a bottle of juice to go play with it, who knows might be a couple more converts ;-)
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Post by vereybowring on Sept 4, 2012 16:23:35 GMT
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Post by Bluefish on Sept 4, 2012 19:57:20 GMT
•participants who were non-smokers (considered healthy subjects), had a significant increase in airway resistance from an average of 182% to 206% •participants who were smokers without lung conditions had a significant increase from an average of 176% to 220% •participants who were smokers with existing lung conditions (COPD or asthma), appeared to have no immediate effects on their airway resistance
Not quite sure what they mean, did the non smokers airway resistance go up on average 182%, or from their normal average of 182% up to 206%? i'm guessing it's the first, but that doesn't seem right?
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Post by farzooks on Sept 5, 2012 22:55:53 GMT
Hmm.... well, I can only speak from direct experience and I know for a fact I'm breathing better and have more stamina than I did six months ago. I doubt that my airways are restricted all that much. Now, the damage that 40 years of nasties did, that's another thing altogether. Another thing; I find it scandalous and outrageous that an NHS site blindly reprints the Mail drivel as if it's gospel. Just shows how stupid /cynical /bought somebody there is.
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Post by Anne (fuzzy) on Sept 5, 2012 23:15:28 GMT
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Post by hifistud on Sept 6, 2012 0:30:22 GMT
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Post by womble on Sept 6, 2012 9:04:24 GMT
Just amazing, the NHS will put something like this online, with an editorial littered with phrases like "The study has not yet been published in a journal, and therefore has not been subjected to the peer-review process so findings reported should be treated with some caution." Yet any test results which show an improvement of health, which are done with more effort/more scientifically, are ignored. You almost couldn't make it up.
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Post by Bluefish on Sept 6, 2012 9:59:58 GMT
They really must be losing a lot of money in taxes haha
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Post by womble on Sept 7, 2012 10:10:02 GMT
Interestingly I wrote a comment on the NHS page and received this email.
Thank you for contributing to the NHS Choices website. We have removed your contribution because you have already posted an identical message or a similar message about the same experience. Please see the site Terms and Conditions or refer to the User Rules policy.
I had just created an account to write the reply, so hadn't written anything else. Ho hum.
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Post by tobylerone on Sept 7, 2012 11:12:16 GMT
As someone who works in Educational Research, actually scrap that, as someone who is not an utter moron, the most obvious failure of this study is that they do not actually state how this compares to the results gained from exactly the same tests conducted on guinea pigs ten minutes after smoking a cigarette.
Still, nice of the Mail to find a new minority of the population to pick on.
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Post by womble on Sept 7, 2012 11:23:17 GMT
As someone who works in Educational Research, actually scrap that, as someone who is not an utter moron, the most obvious failure of this study is that they do not actually state how this compares to the results gained from exactly the same tests conducted on guinea pigs ten minutes after smoking a cigarette. Ahh yes, welcome to 90% of e-cig tests
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