Another newbie!!

[vapourized]

OK, thanks for that, that makes sense.

I've just managed to put in a sneaky order while I'm at work to Vapeescape and ordered:

The VE Riva 1100 Deluxe Kit in White

2 x 30ml Bottles of Gold and Silver 18mg

2 x 30ml Bottles Silky 18mg

So that should keep me going for a while, no doubt as I get in to then I will adjust things here and there like nicotine strength etc and try some of the other flavours along the way too - exciting init!

Right, off to have another vape now.

[vapourized]

Sept 14, 2012 8:35:29 GMT Skwoddy said:

As Tim says, sometimes it's just best to listen to your body though, for people like you, or all of us for that matter, we generally know when we're not getting enough, and our bodies will complain. Too much or too little you will soon know, but great question. Nice to have some idea of where to start to avoid any unnecessary feelings. The things you notice at the beginning though are all the positives you get from giving up smoking, more energy, no morning cough, deeper cleaner breathing. Not to mention sense of smell, taste and generally feeling better.

Absolutely true, I can already feel some of the benefits, the most prominent one is that I feel more alert for some reason which can be no bad thing.

Has there been any noted bad side effects from vaping? I hope not as I'm really getting into this now and would hate to go back to smoking normal cigs.

[pinkerbell]

I've had one bad side effect.

My daughter just came in and I turned into one of those sanctimonious ex-smoker types and cried out "ewwww, get away from me, you STINK of smoke!"

[Skwoddy]

Sept 14, 2012 7:33:21 GMT vapourized said:

Sept 14, 2012 4:52:51 GMT Skwoddy said:

...Put your slippers on, your'e in for a great journey!! ...

That was so funny as that is just me - slippers on and puffing away in the lounge.

One more question I thought of before I order this morning and that is up until Monday I was smoking on average about 60 a day JPS Blacks which have a nicotine content of only 10mg so am I right in saying that the nicotine content of an ordinary cig would be the same as for a vape or is there a formula that works out to an equivalent?

I just want to make sure that I get the right 'dosage' if that's the correct phrase, the 10 Motives I'm vaping at the moment are 18mg and I'm getting through those like there is no tomorrow, they are supposed to be (according to the packaging) the equivalent of 30 ordinary cigs and as I'm using about two a day then I guess the equates to 60 a day which is about right.

Any help and advice much appreciated.

I had to double read your post and double answer you.

Either you have typed a figure wrong or don't grasp the equations, neither are enough to worry about, but if it makes things a little easier I will explain.

In a pack of your jps, each cigarette contains 10mg of tar not nicotine. Rather the nicotine content would be around 0.8 - 1.0 mg. (20 x 0.8 =16) so a pack of 20 cigarettes would hold around 16 mg of nicotine and around a whopping 200mg of tar.

The eliquids are sold in mg per ml. Eg 11 18 24 36 and the general consensus is that people who smoked an average of 20 cigarettes ad day would use 18mg strength eliquid, it's not simply a case though of multiplying your 3 packs by 18mg and trying to smoke 54mg strength eliquid, this would make yo overdose on nicotine very quickly as its all in 1ml and would make you quite ill.
As Tim says the nicotine absorption rates are different in us all.

Another important couple of facts to think about are that the nicotine and eliquid are passed over a very hot coil and a given amount would be lost there, also the vapour is the delivery system for the nicotine ( the vehicle ), the nicotine molecules bind to the vapour to get transported to the lungs, any vapour not inhaled or any vapour exhaled still contains this original 18 or whatever strength we use per millimetre. So you can see how it is difficult for anyone to come to a definitive answer regarding how much nicotine we take in whilst vaping ( or indeed smoking ). So the too long didn't read version would be " listen to your body" i would suggest for yourself to start at 18mg eliquid and vape if you crave, you will soon learn whether you need more, or take a more stubborn stance and ween your body off nicotine at a more " regimented" rate.

Wow, ow my fingers hurt, I'm off for a vape, coconut and banana for the record, WITH ZERO TAR TYVM.

[Chrissie]

Vaporized, I think as you are a 60 a day smoker, you need a higher nicotine content than what you have ordered - at least 24mg if not 36mg. if you quickly email Jason (Vape Escape) I'm sure he will change your order for you.

Lol Pinkerbell, that made me grin

[Chrissie]

Sorry Skwoddy, I crossed posts with you.

[smokescreen]

Hello and welcome #welcome2#

well done on giving up the 60 a day habit. You will very soon experience the benefits to your health and your wallet

[vapourized]

Sept 14, 2012 9:05:22 GMT Skwoddy said:

I had to double read your post and double answer you.

Either you have typed a figure wrong or don't grasp the equations, neither are enough to worry about, but if it makes things a little easier I will explain.

In a pack of your jps, each cigarette contains 10mg of tar not nicotine. Rather the nicotine content would be around 0.8 - 1.0 mg. (20 x 0.8 =16) so a pack of 20 cigarettes would hold around 16 mg of nicotine and around a whopping 200mg of tar.

The eliquids are sold in mg per ml. Eg 11 18 24 36 and the general consensus is that people who smoked an average of 20 cigarettes ad day would use 18mg strength eliquid, it's not simply a case though of multiplying your 3 packs by 18mg and trying to smoke 54mg strength eliquid, this would make yo overdose on nicotine very quickly as its all in 1ml and would make you quite ill.
As Tim says the nicotine absorption rates are different in us all...

Perfect explanation - thank you.

Sept 14, 2012 9:05:22 GMT Skwoddy said:

...Wow, ow my fingers hurt, I'm off for a vape, coconut and banana for the record, WITH ZERO TAR TYVM.

And that my friend is just where I want to be in a few months time - vaping but with no nicotine, I am so looking forward to that, in the meantime I shall be a slave to it for a while longer but at least I'm on my way.

[dave]

Hi vapourized from an even older old buffer. I'm going to give you a slightly contrary opinion. It is the tar and all the 100's of chemicals in fags that do the damage, not the nicotine. Personally I started with 24mg strength e-liquid or stronger and that is what I still use. I used to smoke cigars, so I like a good belt when I have a puff - low nicotine juice just doesn't work for me.
However, I now get through less juice in a day compared to when I started and feel very much healthier, not to mention a much improved sense of taste and smell, so that is what I am going to stick to.

[vapourized]

Hi Dave, someone older than me - nah, I don't believe it!

I saw the nicotine/tar bit when I posted it and saw it was wrong but I just thought that people would understand what I meant - and you did!

My fault totally, I'm getting all my numbers and terminology mixed up but I'm learning, all I've had to do up until now was to go and buy a packet of fags (or several) and smoke them, this is like going into a chemistry lab at school for the first time and learning all the different terms.

[vapourized]

Sept 14, 2012 9:07:07 GMT Chrissie said:

Vaporized, I think as you are a 60 a day smoker, you need a higher nicotine content than what you have ordered - at least 24mg if not 36mg. if you quickly email Jason (Vape Escape) I'm sure he will change your order for you.

Hi Chrissie, it's now been shipped but no worries, I'll give this a go for now and see how I get on, if I find that I need the higher strength then I can order some for delivery next day.

Can't wait for tomorrow morning now, really getting quite excited.

[Globalbloke (Tim)]

Sept 14, 2012 13:38:33 GMT vapourized said:

Sept 14, 2012 9:07:07 GMT Chrissie said:

Vaporized, I think as you are a 60 a day smoker, you need a higher nicotine content than what you have ordered - at least 24mg if not 36mg. if you quickly email Jason (Vape Escape) I'm sure he will change your order for you.

Hi Chrissie, it's now been shipped but no worries, I'll give this a go for now and see how I get on, if I find that I need the higher strength then I can order some for delivery next day.

Can't wait for tomorrow morning now, really getting quite excited.

Ah, there's another downside, welcome to the sport of "postie stalking", your relationship with him or her is just about to get a whole lot weirder and closer

[Skwoddy]

Sept 14, 2012 13:40:22 GMT Globalbloke (Tim) said:

Sept 14, 2012 13:38:33 GMT vapourized said:

Hi Chrissie, it's now been shipped but no worries, I'll give this a go for now and see how I get on, if I find that I need the higher strength then I can order some for delivery next day.

Can't wait for tomorrow morning now, really getting quite excited.

Ah, there's another downside, welcome to the sport of "postie stalking", your relationship with him or her is just about to get a whole lot weirder and closer

My postie thought he was gonna get attacked today, I ran at him to get my Vapemail, lol it was only a charger and a Halo sample pack, poor sod!!

[DiscoDes]

RED CARD OF DOOM for me today

[Globalbloke (Tim)]

Sept 14, 2012 14:06:13 GMT DiscoDes said:

RED CARD OF DOOM for me today

Nooooooo! Our area has been doing the "leaving it with the neighbour" scheme that Royal Mail have been trialling, I end up with the entire roads packages because she knows I work from home