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Post by Chrissie on Oct 16, 2012 16:21:02 GMT
I've lost a lot of respect for him
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Post by Perpetua on Oct 16, 2012 16:22:22 GMT
It appears that the US market is the only one that Imeo would like to keep sweet now. This has been so badly handled from start to finish. >
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Post by camperman on Oct 16, 2012 17:08:10 GMT
What really annoys me here is that there was still some info in that thread that people needed to see, like who got refunds etc....he could have just locked it.....I've kinda lost a bit of respect for the man after this....won't stop me buying his products necessarily, but I don't like the way this has been handled.... I know I wasn't in on this pre-order, but I have been planning to buy other GG products in the future its not the first time hes done it as soon as theirs a bad post or negativity the post disapears always. i own around 1.5ks worth of GG eqipment (yes i know perpy and chrissie i always said i would never buy GG stuff ) but all this has left quite a sour taste in my mouth watching him flit from uk vendor to uk vendor over the years and listening to rumours of what they have all gone through with him and im the same as you now chrissie i have lost a lot of respect for him on how this has been handled and hes done himself no favours with a lot of people especially as he has a lot more competition than he used to
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Post by Ellen on Oct 16, 2012 17:16:00 GMT
I agree Camper about other high quality products coming on the market from his competitors, but at the same time, he struggles to keep up with the demand as it is. I think there would be enough demand in America alone for him not to have to worry about selling in Europe at all, but he is keeping the Greek supplies going.
His products are exactly what a lot of Americans love, handmade, rare, serial numbers etc etc.
Even if he doesn't get another UK reseller, I don't think it will affect his pocket much
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Post by Brian on Oct 16, 2012 17:58:43 GMT
The Yanks can have him. At least he knows his arse will always be clean if he only supplies them
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Post by camperman on Oct 16, 2012 18:44:09 GMT
I agree Camper about other high quality products coming on the market from his competitors, but at the same time, he struggles to keep up with the demand as it is. I think there would be enough demand in America alone for him not to have to worry about selling in Europe at all, but he is keeping the Greek supplies going. His products are exactly what a lot of Americans love, handmade, rare, serial numbers etc etc. Even if he doesn't get another UK reseller, I don't think it will affect his pocket much but most of them end up in a glass display case never to be used again and sold a year later for nearly doube the price . you know the thread that makes me laugh the most is the "illegal GG sellers" not knocking imeo but isnt every ecig mod a knock off of trogs SD screwdriver anyway ? lol
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Post by Bluefish on Oct 16, 2012 19:06:56 GMT
Well i was going to place a pre-order for a GGTS, with my PPI money that is incoming, but he can shove it up his ass, no i'm not an American, otherwise i'd order one
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Post by Perpetua on Oct 16, 2012 19:15:21 GMT
Well, it's all left a very bad taste in my mouth, I'll be in no hurry to buy GG again. You pull your UK seller ( fair enough, your prerogative ) without at least ensuring that pre-orders that are paid for are fulfilled. Then erase any trace of upset, dissent and concern from folk who are still waiting for refunds for your products, through your at the time of payment, authorized re-seller. All this without having a viable alternative in place for UK/Euro folk who aren't prepared to pay IBAN charges and who is now being recommended as our GG seller. Sorry Imeo, I've been a great supporter of you and your products in the past and you've been a good friend to our forum . . . on this occasion, we've been let down big time.
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Post by jayjay on Oct 16, 2012 19:16:57 GMT
How can he have such a motto. Is it a joke? I'm no longer buying gg stuff. I have the gg stuff that I have and enjoy it. But no more money in that direction from me. Not until there are full refunds to everyone and the company is transparent.
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Post by jayjay on Oct 16, 2012 19:20:31 GMT
Well, it's all left a very bad taste in my mouth, I'll be in no hurry to buy GG again. You pull your UK seller ( fair enough, your prerogative ) without at least ensuring that pre-orders that are paid for are fulfilled. Then erase any trace of upset, dissent and concern from folk who are still waiting for refunds for your products, through your at the time of payment, authorized re-seller. All this without having a viable alternative in place for UK/Euro folk who aren't prepared to pay IBAN charges and who is now being recommended as our GG seller. Sorry Imeo, I've been a great supporter of you and your products in the past and you've been a good friend to our forum . . . on this occasion, you've let us down big time. Yeah I'm there too. Let it be known, deleting that thread has caused my decision. I like to deal only with open and transparent companies. And I spend a lot of cash on vaping. But no more to that company.
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Post by womble on Oct 16, 2012 19:24:50 GMT
I must admit, I tend to find the provari type thing more interesting than the GG stuff, I don't like shiny, but I admire the way the attys are made. What's been putting me off, is the lack of spares and difficulty getting hold of just about anything it seems.
I don't fancy giving over vast quantities of dosh and then waiting for ages to see if you might get what you ordered to start with.
For me, this is probably the straw that broke any thought of having any GG stuff.
Re the immediate problem, we don't know what the "accountancy errors" are and of course everyone is being very careful not to slander anyone else atm it seems. If IMEO has thrown a strop and annoyed alot of people from the UK, or if he had no choice to do what he did, we just don't know... or I don't anyway.
In all honesty, I run my own business, I can think of several very good reasons why he might have pulled the plug very quickly........ but of course the track record of 3 dumped vendors in a relatively short time, doesn't look good.
I wouldn't be wanting to jump into business bed with him, that's for sure.
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Post by Perpetua on Oct 16, 2012 19:25:59 GMT
Same here Jay, deleting that last thread . . . which was conducted in a very civilized fashion considering the circumstances, by all UK/European posters on it . . . has finished me as well. There is more than enough available(ish) good stuff about now for us to spend our money on. No smoke without fire, as the saying goes Womble . . . .
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Post by maccafan on Oct 16, 2012 19:33:55 GMT
Relationships breakdown all the time but truly professional companies will not allow it to affect end users and find a way to end the relationship without affecting the consumer. The professional way to have done this would have been for the manufacturer to advise the local distributor not to take any more orders and negotiate with him to fulfill existing pre-orders and do this in a way so that it doesn't the end consumer.
This is a ridiculous situation to place end users in and not for the first time. What a mess and all those who paid and waiting for refunds have my sympathies.
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Post by jayjay on Oct 16, 2012 19:37:22 GMT
I didn't even see the thread perps, but have trust it was conducted fairly if you lot are involved. I don't know what happened with cam and imeo, but silencing a voice or voices that are of genuine concern is wrong. And having that moto is a joke.
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Post by maccafan on Oct 16, 2012 19:40:28 GMT
The thread has been reopened and all "useless" posts deleted. Clicky
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