Penelope Newbie help

[yorkcitytom]

So, after wanting a Penny pretty much since starting vaping a couple of months ago, I am now the lucky owner of one thanks to working with a member of this fine forum (cheers JayJay).

After having a love/hate relationship with Vivi Novas. I really like the Penny and the way it works consistently well right to the bottom of the tank. I have a few queries about rebuilding though and despite some thorough searching have been unable to answer a few basic questions, so here goes:

1. Jay supplied me with a couple of 'pre-joined'wires (the ones with dots) which I have succesfully used to rebuild a couple of times. I would really like to get some more of these, but for the life of me can't seem to find anywhere on line which sells them.

2. There is plenty of information about where to get certain types of wire (i.e Kanthal and Nickel (sp?), but the Penny uses both resistance and non-resistance wire does it not? I think Kanthal and Nickel are both one type only, i.e I would need some different wire to join onto them?

Is it unique in this regard, as I can't find any threads either here or anywhere else telling me where to get both types- either pre-joined or not.

3. I would probably like to re-build every week,as although I know a coil should last a lot longer than that, I'm slightly alarmed at the black bits of crud which build up within a few days and would prefer not to be sucking on that sort of crap. Given that, are there any premade wick and coils avaiable a la Vivi Novas that can just be dropped into the Penny?

I have found stuff like this www.thehouseofvapor.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Pre%2Dmade%2DCoils, but I suspect that it isn't compatible with the Penny, due to the resistance/non-resistance thing-am I right?

Any pointers to make my life with a great bit of kit easier would be gratefully received.

Cheers.

[Skwoddy]

Smokeguru in greece sells them (actually has some in stock), Vassilis the guy that runs it is a great guy. I also see that he has a credit card option now as opposed to just IBT,

www.e-smokeguru.gr/en/Wire-Wick/475-%CE%88%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%B9%CE%BC%CE%B5%CF%82-%CE%91%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B9%CF%83%CF%84%CE%AC%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%B9%CF%82-15-%CE%A9.html

If you want to go down the route of making your own wire, then its easy to source Resistance and No resistance wires, they require some good eyesight to make a great join though. Although if you know somebody with a soldering iron and multimeter youre laughing. Probably best to get a few pre mades whilst you look at that.

Resistance wire is the 0.20 wire on this page : www.wires.co.uk/acatalog/KANTHAL_A_wire.html

Low resistance is the 10 metres of 0.236 found here : www.wires.co.uk/acatalog/ni_bare.html

(it has a note to say good for use as low resist wires in ecigs)

If you want to join them by hand the "western union splice" is the best way, found here :- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Union_splice


PS, the crud you see around your wick, whilst looking alarming is only caremelized sweeteners, two weeks is fine for a coil change unless the flavour falls off too dramatically.

[yorkcitytom]

Great-cheers for the link! Am I right in saying that the Penelope is unique in using NR and R wire then? Seems a bit odd that the prejoined stuff is so thin on the ground.

[Skwoddy]

Nov 17, 2012 12:03:28 GMT yorkcitytom said:

Great-cheers for the link! Am I right in saying that the Penelope is unique in using NR and R wire then? Seems a bit odd that the prejoined stuff is so thin on the ground.

Penelope and Odysseus are the only two I know that use them, but most people make their own and the vendors know this.

Theyre only designed like that to keep the heat where its needed (at the coil), electricity will always take the easiest route. and excess heat away from other parts (atty walls and o rings etc)

[OneDay]

Tom we all went through it when the Penelopes first arrived. Have you seen Blakey's most excellent walkthrough thread here?

[yorkcitytom]

Nov 17, 2012 12:30:41 GMT OneDay said:

Tom we all went through it when the Penelopes first arrived. Have you seen Blakey's most excellent walkthrough thread here?

Yep, but although very helpful,it didn't really answer the questions about sourcing wire and pre-made options.

[OneDay]

I use .16 NiCr and .2 silver NR, both from wires.co.uk

You will see that on their site it tells you the resistance in ohms per metre of each of the nickel chrome wires, so that for instance, the stuff I have is 53.7 ohms per metre, so if I want a 2 ohm coil I need (2/53.7) X 1000 = 37mm. If I am joining this to no resistance wire I add about 10mm or so to allow for the joins.

[goofy]

I had similar questions when i first got the Penny, thankfully Blakey sent me on the right path

These are the two types of wire i use from wires.co.uk......





To join them all you need is to twist them together using tweezers etc, no need for soldering, think there's a post from Blakey regarding that too! A lot better to make up your own wires, that way you can build them to your own preferred ohmage............. is ohmage a word? Oh, and i always do a Blakey special wick too, 5mm of wicking pleasure