batteries

[millerkev]

Nov 24, 2012 20:25:58 GMT Skwoddy said:

Nov 24, 2012 20:21:31 GMT millerkev said:

LOVING IT PAL TBH ,, Put the 1.8ohm head in my nova and the gvc is so sweet
perfect fit into my leather lanyard too like it was made for argy boy
2 batts lasting 3 days too will be ace when i top up on batts ,,a full week without a charge ..beat that harris ,,lol (puts hard hat ready for the bomber)
# the switch is a little rattly but had no probs with battery rattle as u suggested maybe as its always in the lanyard never hear/noticed it if indeed its there at all .. so all in VERY HAPPY mate

Excellent, Cant fault the argento, at the price too.

lol certainly cant fault the price (thanks julie )

[Phoenixflame (Julie)]

[alvoram]

Nov 24, 2012 16:17:13 GMT izan said:

okay, cool, thanks.

I can't seem to find any examples where a single, quality battery failed in a commercial device. Could you give me some links?

I thought a single cell failure was almost a zero possibility, if this is not correct, please enlighten me.

Thanks in advance.
I

That is not correct no, a single cell is much, much safer than stacked batteries, but they can fail, any Lithium battery CAN fail, protected, unprotected, IMR, safer chemistry whatever, it can fail. You need to learn the dangers of lithium batteries before using mods. Do not over charge them, Do not use when under charged, Do not use them if they've been physically damaged, and definitely DO NOT SHORT them.... Do any of these things and there is a risk of the battery failing. Some of these things are prevented by the protection circuitry built into some batteries. Some mods have this protection circuitry built into them which means you can use unprotected batteries. But remember, nothing is perfect, even protected batteries can fail, if their protection fails. As I've said before, it's not something to worry about, as long as you treat them with respect, and follow the rules, THEN the chances of failure are almost zero.

Oh and as you requested, here you go...

www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/190146-pictures-serious-battery-failure-imr-18650-a.html

And a whole forum dedicated to instances of lithium cell failures, that should be just about enough reading

www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?107-Smoke-and-Fire-Hot-Cells-and-Close-Calls-The-dangerous-side-of-batteries

[Skwoddy]

Nov 24, 2012 22:13:22 GMT alvoram said:

Nov 24, 2012 16:17:13 GMT izan said:

okay, cool, thanks.

I can't seem to find any examples where a single, quality battery failed in a commercial device. Could you give me some links?

I thought a single cell failure was almost a zero possibility, if this is not correct, please enlighten me.

Thanks in advance.
I

That is not correct no, a single cell is much, much safer than stacked batteries, but they can fail, any Lithium battery CAN fail, protected, unprotected, IMR, safer chemistry whatever, it can fail. You need to learn the dangers of lithium batteries before using mods. Do not over charge them, Do not use when under charged, Do not use them if they've been physically damaged, and definitely DO NOT SHORT them.... Do any of these things and there is a risk of the battery failing. Some of these things are prevented by the protection circuitry built into some batteries. Some mods have this protection circuitry built into them which means you can use unprotected batteries. But remember, nothing is perfect, even protected batteries can fail, if their protection fails. As I've said before, it's not something to worry about, as long as you treat them with respect, and follow the rules, THEN the chances of failure are almost zero.

Oh and as you requested, here you go...

www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/190146-pictures-serious-battery-failure-imr-18650-a.html

And a whole forum dedicated to instances of lithium cell failures, that should be just about enough reading

www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?107-Smoke-and-Fire-Hot-Cells-and-Close-Calls-The-dangerous-side-of-batteries

wow, when they go, they go....

www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?280909-Ultrafire-18650-3000mA-exploded&s=9145030edd9ea9e745dee5675e8ef038

[alvoram]

The blood in the sink drives it home doesn't it (That is blood right?)

But I just want to reiterate that these things generally only happen when you misuse the cells, knowingly, by mistake, or more worryingly through ignorance. Follow the rules and I'm confident in saying you have very little to worry about.

[Roger]

Nov 24, 2012 22:39:32 GMT alvoram said:

The blood in the sink drives it home doesn't it (That is blood right?)

But I just want to reiterate that these things generally only happen when you misuse the cells, knowingly, by mistake, or more worryingly through ignorance. Follow the rules and I'm confident in saying you have very little to worry about.

Well said Alvoram. It is worrying when you read some of the posts people make about batteries, especially the ones who have been given good advice, but choose to ignore it.
There is loads of sound info around, some of the links recently given show that. If they can't be bothered to do a bit of research or ignore and argue with advice given them by members with a lot of experience...... well, sounds harsh, but mind your fingers!!!