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Post by Sandra (aka Chillax) on Dec 21, 2012 19:57:49 GMT
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Post by captainpugwash on Dec 21, 2012 20:00:30 GMT
I've signed this, a no brainer for me, Vaping has transformed my life
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Queenie Bee
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Post by Queenie Bee on Dec 21, 2012 20:26:07 GMT
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Post by dognero on Dec 21, 2012 20:58:59 GMT
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AnnaLaw
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Post by AnnaLaw on Dec 21, 2012 21:44:43 GMT
Signed this months ago and posted to UKV (or saw it there). I've written to all seven MEPs plus MP, so far received a reply from one saying it will take time to reply as he takes all correspondence seriously. I found an interesting discrepency between blood plasma levels in the directive and nicotine content in eliquid, although the 2010 made a typo by using mg for ecigs (2010 Ruyan) until Table 3, which is correct. The error is here:- Results Over 60 min, participants using 16 mg ENDD recorded 0.82 units less desire to smoke than the placebo ENDD (p¼0.006). No difference in desire to smoke was found between 16 mg ENDD and inhalator. ENDDs were more pleasant to use than inhalator (p¼0.016) and produced less irritation of mouth and throat (p<0.001). On average, the ENDD increased serum nicotine to a peak of 1.3 mg/ml in 19.6 min, the inhalator to 2.1 ng/ml in 32 min and cigarettes to 13.4 ng/ml in 14.3 min. The plasma level for ecigs (ENDDs) should be in ng, not mg. Other studies have made similar errors where decimal points are moved in places. A 16 mg/ml ecig gives 1.3 ng/ml blood plasma levels, way nelow that in the directive. The amount of nicotine/ml allowed would give zero blood plasma concentration. A cigarette gives 13.4 ng/ml, nicotine inhalator containing 10 mg nicotine 2.1 ng/ml and eliquid at 16mg/ml gives a plasma concentration of 1.3 ng/ml. This is in www.seeht.org/Bullen%20et%20al%20-%20Jul_2010.pdfTable 3 gives the quantities. This is a 2010 paper that used a small sample of smokers to compare nicotine inhalators with ecigs. Table 3 Pharmacokinetic properties of usual cigarette, 16 mg ENDD and Nicorette inhalator Mean tmax (min) Mean Cmax Product (95% CI) (ng/mL) (95% CI)* Usual cigarette (n¼9) 14.3 (8.8 to 19.9) 13.4 (6.5 to 20.3) 16 mg ENDD (n¼8) 19.6 (4.9 to 34.2) 1.3 (0.0 to 2.6) Nicorette inhalator (n¼10) 32.0 (18.7 to 45.3) 2.1 (1.0 to 3.1) ENDD, electronic nicotine delivery device. *Corrected for baseline nicotine levels.
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Post by glynwhite on Dec 22, 2012 6:01:59 GMT
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Clutter
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Post by Clutter on Dec 22, 2012 6:50:21 GMT
Signed and shoved on Alastair campbell's facebook page Lol Jane. Why Ali Campbell's FB page?
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Post by padiho on Dec 23, 2012 15:15:09 GMT
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Post by lordbarby on Dec 24, 2012 11:38:41 GMT
Every one on all the forums are posting brilliant information and comments. Would it be possible for all the forums including Totally Wicked ( Yes, but this is too big to rake up past issues) and create one website so that every thing can be coordinated in one place?. I am posting this on all the forums.
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Clutter
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Post by Clutter on Dec 24, 2012 12:07:45 GMT
#welcome2# Lord Barby & my polly gees for misnaming you. I'll correct my OP.
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Post by Dan Fieldhouse on Dec 30, 2012 15:47:37 GMT
Ok and signed
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Post by Rybes on Dec 30, 2012 17:41:15 GMT
signed but only 660 so far. i wonder if this is bein pushed by tobacco companies cos their scared of a profit loss. of course, well never know that will we
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Clutter
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Post by Clutter on Dec 31, 2012 7:57:26 GMT
signed but only 660 so far. i wonder if this is bein pushed by tobacco companies cos their scared of a profit loss. of course, well never know that will we Wot ??? Of course the petition isn't being pushed by Big Tobacco .
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Post by Blownupdolly on Jan 1, 2013 16:57:52 GMT
I had already signed but just got Mr Dolly to do it.
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Post by jeffc on Jan 1, 2013 17:54:42 GMT
Signed this weeks ago. What`s stopping the rest of my fellow forum members for not signing this petition. ??? It could make a major effect on our future vaping supplies and equipment, if we sit on our hands and leave it to others.(syndrome). DO IT NOW. thank you. jeffc
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