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Post by Clutter on Dec 21, 2012 6:19:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 6:51:28 GMT
Signed this at the last round of panic. Wonder if the vendors could put a link to this on their websites?
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Post by kibbster on Dec 21, 2012 6:53:58 GMT
I've signed it. It may not get enough to be debated in Parliament but it might show that some care enough to protect e-cigs.
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Post by Chrissie on Dec 21, 2012 10:24:47 GMT
Signed.
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Post by DiscoDes on Dec 21, 2012 12:16:55 GMT
signed
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Post by mcsquenks on Dec 21, 2012 12:25:15 GMT
Signed this few weeks ago, & it showed around 500 signatures.... Now I fully believe that there must be many thousands of Vapers that have signed this, (Now, i'm not a conspiracy believer per se) BUT surely this petition is not showing the true number of signed up people Any1 else feeling this???
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 12:30:20 GMT
nearly 100 new signatures since this morning
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Post by hifistud on Dec 21, 2012 15:23:13 GMT
Please don't think that a petition is all you need to do.
Today I have contacted my MP and all three of my local MEPs to set up meeting with them to explain why this damned daft proposal cannot be allowed to get written into law, either here or in Europe. Everyone needs to do the same. Take up their time and make them understand.
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Post by womble on Dec 21, 2012 15:42:51 GMT
Signed
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Post by hifistud on Dec 21, 2012 15:49:08 GMT
This from Clive Bates...
Clive Bates December 21, 2012 at 3:36 pm · Reply Dave – very good Vapour Trails… The proposal is absurd. I completely agree with your call to arms – vapers have got to put up a fight. My tips on writing lobbying letters: 1. Write your own – authenticity counts, so describe what it means to you and what you want to happen 2. Don’t worry that you have to use technical or legal language. You don’t – just put it in your own words. 3. Always be polite and work on the assumption that the person you are writing to will want to do the right thing – ie. give them the benefit of the doubt. 4. Short is good, but keep to a couple of pages max. 5. Always ask for a reply insisting they give their position and respond to your suggestions 6. Ask for a meeting or say you will be going to their surgery (and go). Explain what vaping is and why it has made a difference to you. 7. Try to make a constructive proposal. Obvious things you could ask for: + remove the provisions on e-cigarettes from the directive completely because there is no evidence they are doing any harm + a 2-3 year delay in bringing the provisions on e-cigs into effect; + more study of the potential for tobacco harm reduction taking into account the people that are using e-cigs to get off cigarettes; + assessment of the consequences of applying medicinal regulation and effectively banning e-cigs (ie. bad things that might happen). 8. Use to work out who to write to… MPs, MEPs 9. Start with MEPs – the directive will be scrutinised in the European Parliament at a session on 25 February – so that is an important date to work towards (see brief). 10. Directives also have to be agreed by the European Council (ie. national governments). So write to your MP and ask them to take the matter up with the Secretary of State for Health (Jeremy Hunt). This is better than writing directly to the Secretary of State or civil servants, or just to your MP. Not all MPs will contact the Secretary of State, but many will do that on your behalf.
By the way, the draft directive bans vapour products above the thresholds in article 18.1 (>2mg/unit or 4mg/ml) at entry into force, not after 24 months (see article 26 on transitional provisions, which only applies to the irrelevant products below the threshold).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 15:56:44 GMT
signed me + friends + passed on
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 16:08:51 GMT
Chrissie, can this be added as a sticky at the top of the forum ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 17:01:20 GMT
Signed and shoved on Alastair campbell's facebook page
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 18:46:45 GMT
a deserving Bump
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 19:41:44 GMT
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