New to mixing

[jax]

Have been reading and (hopefully) digesting all the fabulous hints, tips, tricks and advice here in Mixology for a while.

Just before Christmas I ordered Nic, PG, VG and some flavours from Postmodern - just a few of my favourite flavours (to start with!) - and tonight I have attempted my first mix

Kept it simple (I hope) by mixing a 0 nic 70/30 PG/VG Irish Cream as follows:

2.5 ml PG
1.5 ml VG
1.0 ml F'Art Irish Cream

Hardly ground breaking I know but wanted to test the flavouring out first....

Haven't tested it yet but it smells just like my favourite Irish cream vape *crosses fingers*

[genguskhan]

Irish Cream sounds nice jax no idea about mixing but someone will be along soon

[violetblade]

I'm no master mixer Jax but we have a few on here
I hope it tastes just like your favourite I haven't had many failures the only unvapable one was caramel cappaccino but I jumped in and mixed at 15% thinking I was keeping it low but apparently I should only have used 1 drops per 10ml of base Vile would be an understatement

Good luck in all your mixing

[Perpetua]

Have fun Jax, a wonderful, satisfying world awaits you.

That's a reasonably low concentration to mix at, F'arts I usually mix at 20% as I find them quite weak, although very pleasant.

But, it's better to start low as so much depends on your individual taste buds and whether you're after a standalone flavour or a blend.

Try it in a weeks time, you can always add more if you need to.

[chrisde]

I have to disagree with Perpetua here - F'arts Irish Cream is quite potent and I wouldn't go past 8 or 10 percent, but that's me. It's important to note that you can always add flavouring until it suits you, but removing it is a bit more complicated.
F'arts differ a lot in strength, some are weak and I use 12 or more vol % (ylang ylang, hypnotic myst, caramel, ...) some are very strong (esp. tobacco types: latakia, dark vapure, ...) and I rarely use more than 2%.

Anyway, welcome to the mixing side of vaping and good luck with your juices.

A last hint: if you don't like something you made - let it sit for a couple weeks without changing it and try again, you might be surprised.

[Perpetua]

Lol . . . I'd think your taste buds are in a better state than mine Chris, my normal mixing concentrations are between 20-30% on just about everything, even higher on a lot of the CCW flavours, I just use them as a dilutent and flavouring.

Hopefully Jax's will be more on a par with yours.

[chrisde]

Heh, yeah, we've had that same discussion in the German mixer forums as well. Some like more flavour than others, of course, but there is more to it.

There is a certain flavouring (CBV Waldmeister), sweet woodruff, that is very delicate to make use of, a tad too low and it will taste like base, a tad too much and it becomes bitter and awful. But exactly right it's divine. Now there was almost bad blood over what is "exactly right" - some insisted around 5% of a 10% solution was right - so basically 0,5%. Others insisted you need at least 10% of the pure stuff to taste anything.

We found out that it's all down to steeping. If you want the taste NOW you can use 6% of the CBV Waldmeister stuff and it will have a very simple and FLASHY taste of woodruff. But the liquid will only taste good for a day or two, then it will develop unpleasant undertones. I am using ~2% and let it sit for months until it tastes good - and it will be a lot more complex than the one that has the sledgehammer type dosage, but it will be as strong a taste as the 6%.

You could use 20%, of course

[archiecat]

Wow, we've moved into another level here, I would love to join in, but feel that it would be wise to spend another few months in the Tibetan monastery dedicated to the mystic art of juice mixing, before I make a useful contribution.....Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. love and peace

PS,

here in Tibet we often let our spiritual juices steep for several years to achieve nirvana. Hope this helps.

[chrisde]

Ah, the famous yak buttered tea liquid - I love it with some ccw ginger =)

[archiecat]

Ah brother chrisde, if it was only so simple, but we must consider the position of the planets, the latitude of sister Perpetua. It is all so confusing to a a humble monk

[Perpetua]

Lol . . . it all boils down to personal preference ultimately, but I'm a great advocate of the ancient art of Steepage.

[chrisde]

I am not going to comment on the latitude of sister Perpetua! Let us focus on the planets and the tea. And yak butter (without diacetyl, of course).

Poor jax. I am really sorry, I didn't mean to hijack your thread. I'll

[Banky]

For me it took about 6 months before i got my mixes to the way i wanted Flavour, Taste.
I write down every recipe I mix now used to get caught out if I did a good mix then couldn't remember,
the ingredients.

[cheekiecharlie]

I usually mix between 15-20%, when I first start with a new concentrate , I start at 5% and work up 5% at a time til I find what suits. I always give my mixes at least a week of steeping , some I give even longer , but as flavours are so subjective its mainly trial and error and a journey that can only really be done alone

[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

Dec 29, 2012 18:38:46 GMT chrisde said:

Talking about F'Arts..... (esp. tobacco types: latakia, dark vapure, ...) and I rarely use more than 2%.

I have to agree with Chrisde about F'Arts tobaccos, some are very strong, Dark Vapure and Perique Black are very potent and only need be used at 2% each (I use them combined and find they complement each other and give a good base tobacco flavour to build on).

Use too much and it ruins the flavour... definitely a case of "Less is more" for these two.