Well, that was a bad idea

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Lobey's been stockpiling nic for a while, Jane.

Think he,s after another couple of freezers to store his stash

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has no one told him freezers are for food....not nic? LOL

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Don't all jump at once but I think I might be down to 7mg/ml

Impossible without a taifun/bulli a2 classic....

Impossible why? Cos you have to up your PG ratio....when I started this malarky I was on a PG/VG ratio of 70/30. I am now on 85/15 and I suspect it'll go higher before I'm done on the pg....

Anyone know how long you can store PG for and like where and what in is best to store it in?

Jane

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I'm now down to 4mg/ml. Early days but 6 was fine (though did vape loads cos was up all night one night. Must have vaped about 18ml in 1.5 days )

This 85/15 mix is really good ...Just need some more PG to come asap...Have made up about 30ml so hope it lasts a day or so

So yeah ...maybe beginning of next week or middle of next week should be 0....here's hoping?

Jane

[giles]

If you don't fancy going fully into mixing, you can just mix two liquids to adjust the strength of your juice. Just need an empty bottle to put them in. I wouldn't keep the 6mg if you decide to go back to 12 - I'd buy some 18 and mix it 50/50.

But mixing from flavours is easy. I'd start with just one flavour rather than trying to build a recipe, find the % of flavour that seems to suit you.

btw when I tried to reduce the nic I just vaped more, so I stopped. Maybe I'll try again when I've worked out some way of controlling it.

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Yeah but I actually like vaping..

Am now down to 2mg/ml not finding any major cravings..with a mega vape that's only 40mg I'm getting - tomorrow 0Mg

I was on 5mg for a day, then 4mg for a day now 2mg for a day. I know it's a rapid decrease but seems to be going well. Any probs and I'll up it to 6 but 6 is the highest I'll take it now...

And when ya just using 1.4ml of nicotine (54mg concentration) per 20ml why worry? Cheap as chips

Jane

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Giles once you get below a certain threshold you actually reduce as fast as you can (every 2 days or more often) so you don't get stung by vaping extra to make up. Also you will know if you can't cope with the lower nic as you constantly crave it without any satisfaction from the e-cig

Did 0mg between 2am Sabbath (sunday am) and like 1600hours...then did 2mg for an hour or two (but it was too strong? Go figure)...then 1mg for a day.....Now off again...

Fingers crossed (well in time to beat the EU ban) but don't mention giving up vaping just yet LOL

Jane

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I've had another bad week and been vaping 1mg/ml like it's going out of fashion (like 20ml a day :eek:)..so this am it's been off to the NRT nazis to try and get this fixed. Of course the NRT helpline had to put their two penny worth in about 'not knowing what was in e-cigs' I'm like 'I'm not here to argue. Lets agree to disagree' but the actual chemist was fine

I'm still on my e-cig for now. Gimme a few weeks and it may just be the straw (20p for 50 from Mr T ) and I have my NRT Nazis all ready (just to more easily regulate my nic)....I hope that girl knew what she was talking about cos I can't see how 2mg of a 2mg microtab can be 100% absorbed ...but hey ho

But the microtab seriously sucks...Off to get the diddy lozenge this pm

Jane

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Didn't get the lozenge...stuck with the microtab...though haven't used my e-cig since 11am (when it needed refilling)..stuck with my straw...

Only one word of warning for people wishing to follow (taking into account the possible EU directive - one of my main motivations I have to say)....don't eat whilst using the microtab - you end up swallowing the microtab LOL

Just on the day I order more shinies LOL

Jane

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Morning all...this has turned into my own personal stop vaping diary LOL

Tried Sue's thread again (don't know why) and she just spam dunked it and I'm on a yellow card with MSE as it is so don't want to rock the boat. I figure I won't post on there every day...

The last 30 hours have just proved what's possible when, as a heavy smoker, you set your nicotine right in the early days of withdrawal and like gradually reduce...

Don't mention the last month's reduction .....I haven't been sleeping with it ......

My story is a simple one. I have been nicotine and cig alkaloid dependant for over 10 years due to mental health issues. When I tried pharmaceutical NRT (nicorette, niquitin, nicotine patches etc) it wasn't strong enough initially so within 20 hours I'd be tearful and psychotic and the GP would tell me to go back on the cigs.

I started vaping on the 7th September 2011 (after trying it out for 3 months prior) at 36mg/ml using some nasal spray for when I couldn't vape (and getting hooked on that in the end). So yeah like a combo. When I got my VV in the october I'd vape as much as 5ml a day!!!. I stuck at this for 8 weeks then began the reduction. I reduced for the next year.....once getting down to 7mg/ml then having to up it again to about 24mg/ml (though never as high as 36mg/ml again) due to lack of throat hit. So yeah ups and downs...

Lots of equipment and a few mild nicotine overdoses.... and lots of fun

Lots of postie stalking as you really can't buy what I like in the shops.... (18650 mods etc and lots of cartridges - boges I still have lots of and they are going nowhere!!!)

In the summer when I got debt free I treated myself to a silver bullet off classifieds and didn't look back. If you just want to buy one mod and be done with it go with something like the silver bullet that has a good track record. Lower priced/poor quality mods will come and go (and die on you)....this silver bullet is still going strong and is in my hand a lot (even now)...

I was on about 24mg/ml at this point.

About October/November time when getting my winter supplies of cartos (I figured early on they were like loo roll. Not something I wished to run out of so I'd buy 100 at a time) I tried rebuildables. First the vivi nova (fun and games)...then the vivi r (didn't like that - poor wicking) and a run in with an aga-t (scared of oxidising the mesh though cloud 9 should shortly be stocking pre oxidised mesh) and finally the taiphun/spheroid.

The latter was a revelation. Within a week I'd dropped down from 20mg/ml to 12 - no probs. Within a month down to 1mg/ml - again no probs (just vaping about 20ml a day LOL)

So this is me. On 10-12 microtabs a day and no psychotic symptoms nothing. A far cry from the lassie 2 years ago who thought it'd take a miracle for her to quit her 1oz a day addiction. Yes I've smoked in that time. I won't say I haven't but it's been nothing in comparison (exact figures less than 3oz since sept 11)

Why am I quitting vaping when it has been a lifesaver? Because this is a new year and time for a new me. . and I want to quit caffeine after this too. So baby steps. This is my choice and I have no rush to get rid of all my e-cig stuff just yet (just some of it ) in case of relapse but still. So many places are anti e-cig in ways they weren't 2 years ago and what with the possible eu directive coming in it's going to be harder to get supplies. Forwarned is forarmed. Be prepared. Would rather quit now in my time then like when I'm forced to

I will be forever grateful to SJ and JC and other's that pointed me in the right direction but now we must somehow over the next few weeks part. I intend to stay on the forums to help newbies for a wee while yet as well....

Jane

[addict]

Well done Jane. You've achieved my long term goal to be nic free. Currently on 18mg nic, I'm going to try your method of reducing by 1mg per week. Did you simply add pg or vg to your mixes to reduce the nic level? Throat hit is very important to me. I reckon that I'm just as addicted to throat hit as nicotine.

Even if I do manage to cut out the nicotine altogether, I plan on keeping a small bottle of nic, mixing supplies and vaping gear for those occasions when I convince myself that I can handle just one smoke to get me through a crisis.

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Addict throat hit is essential to me...

Hence my earth moved when I got the taifun..... (right from 20mg down to 12 in about a week)

No throat hit....might as well bung it right up LOL

I added a mixture of pg/vg to my mixes. I mix my own (helps)....for that you're going to need a degree in maths or like an app of some sort (pc/mac/phone).

If you are having probs with the throat hit at lower levels try upping the PG...helps...even by a wee bit...

I Have an app for android (there's a few all free...trial and error) that I use....

I think I'm going to keep my microtabs personally....they have a good shelf life and I'll be able to get them long after the EU ban and like my no nic mixing supplies and of course my mods (just two - well....maybe more. One is minging but has sentimental value

Jane

[addict]

Thanks Jane. I mix my own juice too and have ejuicemeup so I should manage ok. I'll use vg to reduce nic levels in the early stage when throat hit might not be so noticeable and I can switch to pg when the nic levels are really low. I never used microtabs - don't think they were available when I tried giving up in the past. I have used inhalers, patches, hypnotherapy and acupuncture with varying degrees of success but I have no confidence that they would be any use to me in a crisis. Vaping will be my emergency standby.

I decided against buying a mod because I couldn't be bothered faffing around with different types of batteries and chargers so I hope my Twists will deliver enough throat hit. If not, I'll buy a mod. Anything is better than smoking.

Congrats to you again. You've shown me that it can be done. In my time on the forum, I think that you're only the second person to have stopped vaping. Pity there aren't more. It would be a big boost in promoting vaping as a real stop smoking method.

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I just love this forum..... It has helped so much...

I have to say I vaped quite a bit yesterday (no nic) but then I was pretty tired. I will try again later with my straw

Microtabs have been around since year dot...they are cheap enough and available on prescription. Please note my nic levels were right down before I went on them (1mg/ml x 20ml a day) so not to be done asap. Get that nic right down if you are to go on them...

But throat hit wise. You should be okay with what you have but maybe try something like a bulli a2 classic or something (I have mine on classifieds) or a spheroid/taifun/kayfun if you really want to drop the nic down. You're going to struggle much below 12 without that. They're expensive but worth it to get the nic down... But the bulli a2 classic is still on offer and you can get it in stainless steel... PM me if you want to negotiate a deal for mine (mine is a little expensive right now but not prepared to drop the price for a few days)...

Twists should be fine for throat hit. Mod doesn't make that much of a difference. It's what's on top that counts

Jane

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I use mini novas on my twists. I've never heard of a Bulli a2. I had a quick look at your thread in Classifieds. It's one of those rebuildable gadgets. Looks complicated, and I don't do complicated. If I intended turning vaping into a hobby I would go down the rebuildable route to avoid silica (silicon?) wicks but vaping is a means to an end for me. My goal is to be nic free and habit free by the end of this year.

I'll stick with the min nova for the time being and if that doesn't work I'll buy something more effective - bulli or spheroid or whatever is easiest to manage. I'll probably be kicking myself for not buying your bulli. I'll be watching out for updates on your vape-free journey. Please keep us posted.