Vaping figures please

[hgvroy]

I have got a provisional date for a meeting with my MP for next week and am at present gathering some facts and figures.
Does any one know where I can lay my hands on some figures on how many people are vaping throughout the UK and Europe?
At the moment all I can find is hearsay and maybe that's all there is but if anyone can point me towards a useful link it would be appreciated

[Sandra (aka Chillax)]

Hifi mentioned the figures not long ago, maybe send him a pm asking if he could give you them. Well done on getting a meeting.

[hgvroy]

Thanks Sandra, will try that

[padiho]

news.yahoo.com/number-people-vaping-uk-doubles-2-years-071645289.html

Not sure if this will help...not sure if the link will work either...according to figures in October in this article it's about 700, 000 and doubled in two years.

[lobeydosser]

You will get some, if not all, of the information you require here;-
www.clivebates.com/

[hgvroy]

Thanks guys, that's excellent, I think I will e mail ASH and see how these figures were estimated.
I don't want to to go to this meet "half cocked" it comes from years of negotiating with management as a shop steward

[maccafan]

It was around a million about 5 months ago..

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=promoting&thread=10601&page=1#220413

[giles]

The EU report itself has figures in Annex 2 of the impact assessment (you can find the report via ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/products/revision/index_en.htm page 17 if you want to look), They say "The Electronic Cigarette Industry Trade Association (ECITA) estimates that they represent 60-70% of the volumes sold on the UK market and reports that the market is growing 20-30% monthly. ECCA UK estimates that in 2012 there will be 750,000 electronic cigarette users. Red Kiwi estimates the figure for Germany to be 1.2 million for the year 2011"

Personally I suspect the figures for the UK and Germany actually include vapers in EU countries where ecigs are banned. But even so they are high enough for us to expect see a reduction in the number of smokers (a better researched figure). I can't find figure for the UK for 2011 (don't know why, supposed to be out in August 2012) but the Scotland figure was down by 2% compared to 2010 although normal year-on-year reduction is 0.5%. If we can convince people that this extra reduction is because of ecigs then we should win this battle if we can delay a decision long enough for the 2012 figures to come in.

[hgvroy]

Thanks guys, it would be interesting to see if that 0.5% year on year reduction has increased since the introduction of e cigs, I'm sure it will impact on the figures dramatically in the future, although big Pharma will be scrambling for the glory on that one

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www.eccauk.org/index.php/uk-sitrep.html

[glynwhite]

Do shout if you want case studies of long time smokers and quit failures.