What you all think

[andylec]

As i do a few co-op bulk buys,i feel feedback is the way forward,when i send something out i always look for a post or pm confirming receipt of goods and also help with any problems, i see it as a decent and polite thing to resolve things straight away.
if people who sell cant respond to a pm or post over a problem within 7 days, my thoughts are they shouldn't be selling here.

[Deleted]

Other non vaping related forums that I have been a member of for years say a certain post count of QUALITY posts. Once said member reaches the required post count the member pm's a mod or admin, the mod or admin then checks their posts and if they are happy then they allow them to buy and sell things, if not then they are still not allowed to be able to buy or sell anything. Yes it's a bit of extra work for the mods/admin but it reduces the likelyhood of some dodgy seller ripping someone off.

So basically...

New member
No access to clasifieds at all
100 quality posts that contribute to the community
Once 100 posts are reached they are checked
If ok then access to classifieds is allowed
If not ok then still no access

It's a good way of doing it I think, but that's just my opinion.

[Deleted]

Feb 11, 2013 21:49:20 GMT @simate said:

Other non vaping related forums that I have been a member of for years say a certain post count of QUALITY posts. Once said member reaches the required post count the member pm's a mod or admin, the mod or admin then checks their posts and if they are happy then they allow them to buy and sell things, if not then they are still not allowed to be able to buy or sell anything. Yes it's a bit of extra work for the mods/admin but it reduces the likelyhood of some dodgy seller ripping someone off.

So basically...

New member
No access to clasifieds at all
100 quality posts that contribute to the community
Once 100 posts are reached they are checked
If ok then access to classifieds is allowed
If not ok then still no access

It's a good way of doing it I think, but that's just my opinion.

problem with that is they may want to sell something simple like ejuice or cartomisers that they dont like or get on with and equally they would like to try some being offered and many on here like to offer little bits to new members to broaden their experience with vaping
not trying to knock you down here but it is hard for those new in the game

again those buying here then selling on for bigger profit gets me as well but buyers can easily do their homework through the forum and decide not to buy
as can sellers decide who they want to sell to

thankfully this forum does tend to moderate itself well and if not a moderator can always step in
and is by far the most friendliest in general which makes the new members more likely to stick around and enjoy the rewards of the bargains and advice given

[Ralph]

It has to be on trust!!!

I would be p

[Deleted]

Feb 11, 2013 22:01:50 GMT @colliwobbles said:

Feb 11, 2013 21:49:20 GMT @simate said:

Other non vaping related forums that I have been a member of for years say a certain post count of QUALITY posts. Once said member reaches the required post count the member pm's a mod or admin, the mod or admin then checks their posts and if they are happy then they allow them to buy and sell things, if not then they are still not allowed to be able to buy or sell anything. Yes it's a bit of extra work for the mods/admin but it reduces the likelyhood of some dodgy seller ripping someone off.

So basically...

New member
No access to clasifieds at all
100 quality posts that contribute to the community
Once 100 posts are reached they are checked
If ok then access to classifieds is allowed
If not ok then still no access

It's a good way of doing it I think, but that's just my opinion.

problem with that is they may want to sell something simple like ejuice or cartomisers that they dont like or get on with and equally they would like to try some being offered and many on here like to offer little bits to new members to broaden their experience with vaping
not trying to knock you down here but it is hard for those new in the game

again those buying here then selling on for bigger profit gets me as well but buyers can easily do their homework through the forum and decide not to buy
as can sellers decide who they want to sell to

thankfully this forum does tend to moderate itself well and if not a moderator can always step in
and is by far the most friendliest in general which makes the new members more likely to stick around and enjoy the rewards of the bargains and advice given

I see it as a privilege being able to buy and sell, privileges usually have to be earnt, that way they aren't abused, well generally anyway.

[Deleted]

The safest way to make a transaction is using normal paypal and NOT using the gift option ..... each to their own though I personally don't usually buy or sell ... If I have anything I don't use I give it away

[Ralph]

Not sure what happened there. I will start again.

It has to be done on trust. Some like myself read AAE-C every day but do not post very much.

I have bought on the Classifieds a few times and would be penalised (for i only have 67 post) for other
member wrong doings.

Basically i'm dissonest untill i have reached 100.

The Mods have enough to do with out reading through post.

NAME and SHAME i say if there is any dishonesty.

Glad its all soerted Mary!!!

[OneDay]

Although the forum isn't primarily a vehicle for trading, there are obviously many items bought, sold and swapped between members. My experience and perception is that:-
a) very few of these are done to make a profit
b) many are done at nominal values or even as freebies
c) positive feedback abounds
d) senior members are particularly keen to help newbies with juices etc
e) on the very rare occasions when something goes wrong people bend over backwards to help and support

Let's not try to fix something that ain't broken

[daveyboy37]

Feb 11, 2013 19:53:06 GMT Mary said:

I agree, I would rather trust everybody on here to do the right thing, without having to lay down any new rules.........In every walk of life you always get one............but as im from the up north I shall come up with one of our sayings, I would think he has definately pi....ed on his chips..........his selling days are over.

Exactly, I have only been on here for a few weeks but I'm very active on over 30 other forums.. mainly PC related. I have honestly been shocked by the great friendly attitude on here because its very rare. As far as I can see this is almost an isolated incident. I really don't think that knee jerk reactions are the way forward. Newbies are the people most likely to have liquids to sell. Buy lots and only like a few. Shiny upgrades every few days.
Are we really saying that someone who posts gibberish a hundred times can be trusted, and no one else can? I really hope not.
I'm thrilled you eventually got a resolution Mary and as a Rochdale lad myself, then yeah he has really p****d on his chips but to everyone suggesting this 100 post rule, please think again.

[addict]

I don't buy from the classifieds or partake in the group buys because they are usually restricted to UK only. If I were buying it wouldn't occur to me to check a member's post count and until I read Mary's thread, I thought reviews were only for authorised vendors. When I read Mary's thread I looked for her negative review and it took me ages to find it. Maybe it would be helpful if there were a sticky in the classifieds section recommending that members check reviews and posting history before making payment. The sticky could include a link to the reviews.

Oops! Feel a bit stupid now cos just had a look and there's a buyer beware warning on Classifieds board and a Feedback sub-board. Next time I'll look twice before putting in my tuppence worth. Sorry Mods.

[Deleted]

I've been a member of this forum for over a year and haven't seen a problem with any buying/selling in the classies. There is generally a sense of goodwill between both buyer and seller that fits in well with the 'spirit' of this forum.

Immediately there is a problem then the forum steps in explaining what should or shouldn't happen and what is reasonable and proper etiquette for members. This seems to me a very good way of self policing. There has been little trouble until now so I think it would be good to leave things stand as they are. A forum member had a problem and the forum came wanting to help resolve it and point out what is not acceptable on here.
If these instances were to increase then it could be worth looking at changing things. Just my view.

[DiscoDes]

What's stopping you doing a bit of "Self Moderation"?

Personally I look and see the post count, have a look back through the last few posts of the seller and make a judgement based on this.

My personal take on buying ANYTHING over the internet from a classified is "Don't spend more than you are prepared to lose" all purchases should be treated "Caveat Emptor" or Buyer Beware. If I buy anything of higher value I make sure there are safeguards in place, like purchasing through PayPal (not gift) or if it's a vendor by credit card.

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