Dangerous, but I've just been thinking....

[Dave Vader]

My tester ecig i got to see if I liked it looked like a real one. I thought I would prefer it for stealthy vaping out in the smoking shed at the pub. As soon as I started using it inside i decided I would rather it didn't look like afag to avoid confusion. So I got some stainless batteries and blue cartos from smartcigs. Still looked like a fag, but a silver and blue one that was less likely to confuse punters.

Shame that a lot of proper e-cigs like egos, and mods with big tanks on them do look like crack pipes though...

[lobeydosser]

Mar 14, 2013 11:01:19 GMT jess said:

Thanks for all your replies.

There's no way I would want them banned, they serve a purpose & good, but it is just the colouring of the cigalikes that I mean. I just think it would be more acceptable, make life easier if they were obviously not a cigarette.

But is that not the whole point? 
If I was a smoker, and I was in a situation where I couldn't smoke a cigarette, if I had the opportunity to use something that looked like a cigarette, tasted like a cigarette and still gave me the nicotine that I wanted, then the cig-a-like would be my choice.

We are looking at cig-a-likes from a vapers point of view, not from a smokers.

If you really want a true opinion of what cig-a-likes should look like in the future, then ask smokers what they would like to see, which I am sure has already been asked by those who market these products.

Cig-a-likes are aimed at Smokers, not Vapers and I feel it is wrong of vapers to continually knock cig-a-likes when they are really nowt to do with us, despite the fact that for many of us, they were our first introduction to the world of vaping and for me personally, they have probably saved my life.

[irishcas]

Good point Lobeydosser

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Mar 14, 2013 12:30:36 GMT lobeydosser said:

Cig-a-likes are aimed at Smokers, not Vapers and I feel it is wrong of vapers to continually knock cig-a-likes when they are really nowt to do with us, despite the fact that for many of us, they were our first introduction to the world of vaping and for me personally, they have probably saved my life.

Lobey, I am NOT knocking them, haven't knocked them, as I'm all for them. In fact I have three that I regularly use, even though I started on Ego T's. The point I am struggling to make is, after seeing the reaction to the ones that look identical to a cigarette, would it not be better for the bats to be black or different colours. Also, as I see it, it has a lot to do with us, as peoples reactions to them have a knock on effect to ALL of us, whether already vaping on e-cigs, something more or even thinking of giving it a try, to help give up fags.

[GunJack]

Instead of potentially falling out with each other, shouldn't we all be joining together and e-mailing Points Of View about the "limited accuraccy" of the piece, putting a better view of ALL types of vaping devices, maybe pointing to some of the research that has been done about the lack of harm vaping does, etc., etc.,.....and trying to re-balance the view to the neutrals ??

[lobeydosser]

I still have my original Skycig kit and when I am asked to show others what an e-cig is, how it works and what I have gone onto now, I take the original kit with me along with a varied selection of other types of e-cigs.

Most folks like the cig-a-like what forever reason, although I take pains to point out its limited use etc.

It is only those of us that take the next step up the vaping ladder that can apreciate the true worth of vaping against smoking, but I can only pass the message and let them try the different units, it is not my place to tell them which they should go for.
It is what they feel most comfortable with and, in the beginning, that does seem to be something that looks like an ordinary fag.

It was only after I had been vaping and smoking for a month and then 100% vaping for a couple of weeks more that I made the conscious decision that if I was going to vape, then I wanted something that looked the part and did not look like a plastic imitation cigarette.

Perhaps a decision that all smokers have to make for themselves.
Personally if I had started off with a cig-a-like that did not look like a cigarette then;-
A; I probably would not have looked at them in the first place,
or B; Still be using these and not gone on to buying better e-cigs.

Now that I have been vaping for a while and that vaping has become a normal part of my everyday life, I can see both sides of the questions and answers, but I have to look back to my smoking days and my feelings about the way I came into vaping.
There is a huge potential "public" market out there for cig-a-likes, whereas there is only a small market, by comparason, for the type of e-cigs that we use.
Also, it is easier for shops to market and sell different types of cig-a-likes than it is for them to stock all the paraphernalia that we would like to see in shops.

Cig-a-likes, as they are, are here to stay and there will no doubt be many more brands still to come.

[philh]

Hi,
My first vape was a look a like disposable from Tesco. I had been smoking rollys for years and this thing felt like a drainpipe in my hand. It felt so strange that I waited until I got home before trying it.
If the only ecig available had been the 510 setup with the 1000mah battery that I use now there is no way I would have given them a second glance.
Look a likes are meant to tempt smokers with something that looks similar to what they are already doing and until the last person in the world makes the switch there will always be a market for them.
Phil

[Dave Vader]

in the future I want something that lasts for 3 days between charges, only needs refilling once a day, and hangs comfortably from my lower lip.
That would be brilliant please futurologists.....

[Banky]

Cig-a-likes have their place in the market, they are more appealing to the buyer who wants to try vaping, If that's what gets someone interested then to me it's a good thing. What gets on my wick is the seller who says each cartridge holds ex amount of cigarette's
and then when the buyer find's out that this is not true so then they feel conned. Misleading advertising and not the correct information,
Does not make our case any better. We have to get the public more aware what is really out there get them more educated about vaping.
I was standing next to a seller who was selling cigalikes to a customer and she could not answer the questions the guy was asking her
like how long as he put it the fag lasts before it needs recharged and he asks how many fags are in the thing that screws on the the end of it. She told him a load of B.S because she didn't know the answers only what she was told to do to make a sale' I butted in and gave the guy the web address of this forum and said to him to go on here have a look and he would get good advice before he buy's anything.

[boo]

Like this you mean?


As far as "normal" looking Ecigs go, this one's pretty dire, but still, it doesn't look like a conventional fag.

[lobeydosser]

I agree with Banky about the way Cig-a-likes are advertised. Absolute con in every way, but then again, isn't most advertising these days?
There was a time when, if you advertised a product, you had to be truthful and up front with your claims.
Not any more. These days it is all in the words used and you have to read between the lines as to how good or otherwise, a product actually is.

I'm afraid that will never change, but as with Banky, I too carry the cards directing people towards this Forum and here folks can at least get the facts before they make their choices.