AGA-S

[kirrielad]

Does anyone have a link to a decent video/guide of how to set one of these up? Been trying for the best part of 3 hours to get it up and running. Everytime I think I've made a decent coil, slap it on the vamo and get a stupidly low resistance of like 0.2ohms.

Never used a genesis type atty so a complete guide including making a mesh wick would be great.
If not look for an AGA-S and DID clone on the classies soon!

[Super-Shiny]

You watched this one:

[kirrielad]

Yeah watched it about 5 times mate, still no joy

[markm]

This guy is one of the most informative on genesis building.

[kirrielad]

Cheers markm ill have a watch tomorrow when I'm ready to have another crack at it.

[Hampton]

With 0.2ohms, you must have a serious short Dan. If you have a multimeter try testing between the top of the wick and the deck and see if you get the same or similar resistance. Don't worry about the wick touching the bottom of the tank because if the coil is good then there is no path to ground.
My best guess is that you need to 'soot' the wick a bit more (burning juice on the wick) and not wind the coil so tight. The next suggestion is to try ribbon Kanthal as it's a lot more forgiving.

All the best...

[womble]

Interestingly that video posted above by Mark, shows him not burning juice on a wick (indeed, he says that was old school and now we understand more, it doesn't need to be done) and neither did the 2 latest videos I've seen from Todd and Dave Dorn.

I have noticed the building procedures for genesis's is getting less intensive, no massive burning, no burning juice, definitely no dipping into water hot and I like the idea from the guy above that leaving a hole in the middle of the wick allows for juice to refill the wick, so you're not just relying on capillary action.

Keep it simple, Dave Dorn from VTTV did a build on a RSST very recently and it's worth a look, so is Todds video, building the same thing. I know it's not your atty KL, but they are very good for you to watch.

[kirrielad]

Thanks Hampton. Ill give all that a try, got some ribbon kanthal on order aswell so hopefully ill get it up and vaping soon.

[womble]

In my latest wick build (and believe me KL, I was like yourself not so long ago) I cut the wick, gave it a once over with the blowtorch, then rolled it.
I would probably give it another quick blast of the torch at this point next time.
Stuck it into the atty, wound the coil round it, pulsed on 3v's turning the wick all the time and that's it.

Mine was on a RSST, so it does have the insulated wick hole, which will make it easier.

I think being able to turn the wick inside the coil is the deal maker here, I saw it on Dave Dorns video and it just looked so common sense like, this is the one thing that is going to make coil building easier for anyone that didn't know about it.

[kirrielad]

Thanks for the tips aswell womble. Don't suppose you have a link to the vid? I'm needing to see and take-in as much info as possible.

[womble]

Somewhere in here is Dave building the RSST
www.vapourtrails.tv/?p=5989 (sorry wrong video posted, now updated)

And Todds well worth a look as well. Just for the techniques (but getting an RSST is also a good move I think )
www.toddsreviews.com/2013/04/smok-rsst-rba.html

[Hampton]

May 3, 2013 21:53:42 GMT womble said:

Interestingly that video posted above by Mark, shows him not burning juice on a wick (indeed, he says that was old school and now we understand more, it doesn't need to be done) and neither did the 2 latest videos I've seen from Todd and Dave Dorn.

Hi Womble, for me, the juice burn has been the most effective prevention against shorts... that and a few 'pulse' burns.
The other option is to use a sleeve under the wick but IMO that introduces another problem with taste and you might as well go back to silica.

I'll stand by the adage, SS for tobacco and silica for sweet.

[womble]

May 3, 2013 22:27:27 GMT Hampton said:

May 3, 2013 21:53:42 GMT womble said:

Interestingly that video posted above by Mark, shows him not burning juice on a wick (indeed, he says that was old school and now we understand more, it doesn't need to be done) and neither did the 2 latest videos I've seen from Todd and Dave Dorn.

Hi Womble, for me, the juice burn has been the most effective prevention against shorts... that and a few 'pulse' burns.

I'd agree with you, but the guy in the video above states that the more carbon (which is effectively what you are doing) you put on the wick, the less well it will suck up juice by capillary action, you're blocking the holes which make it work.
A balance obviously has to be struck and that's down to individual taste/experience. I can tell you that this wick I didn't do it with, I have indeed had much better wicking.

The way I'm going to be working on it from now on, is doing as little to the wick as possible, just enough to get it working

[markm]

I like to wind the wick before fitting the wick to the deck, that way it has a chance to relax a bit and make itself a snug rather than tight fit.

[Hampton]

May 3, 2013 22:34:38 GMT womble said:

May 3, 2013 22:27:27 GMT Hampton said:

Hi Womble, for me, the juice burn has been the most effective prevention against shorts... that and a few 'pulse' burns.

I'd agree with you, but the guy in the video above states that the more carbon (which is effectively what you are doing) you put on the wick, the less well it will suck up juice by capillary action, you're blocking the holes which make it work.

But that's the problem, capillary action doesn't want holes it needs something it can 'cling' onto (ie. flat sides).