The Dreaded Ashtray Taste

[grizwald56]

In my experience the ashtray taste tends to occur around week 12 with vapers, give or take a couple of weeks.

As to what causes it, well put plain and simple Tobacco juices, or should I say certain ones.

In my early days mixing my own juices I made my own version of 555 where I used a 50/50 mix of F'arts Burley and Virginia and to this I added a couple of non tobacco flavourings to create the 555 taste.

At first I really enjoyed my new recipe as I do love the peanuty taste of 555 and State Express, which by the way I've been told are virtually the same cigarette, but after about 6 weeks I noticed the dreaded ashtray taste.

As I myself was approaching about my 12th week as a vaper I also notice that a couple of the F'art tobacco's also started to have an ashtray taste, and so I started moving away from vaping tobacco juices.

Now I do'nt know if it's a subconscious thing, or the fact that I was a 46 year ex-heavy smoker, but I still had an urge for tobacco juices at certain times of the day, and the only tobacco juice I had that did'nt give me that ashtray taste was F'art Ultimate Maxbro and so I made do with that for the time being.

Missing the 555 tobacco taste I really love I was overjoyed when TW brought out a range of tobacco concentrates among which was Statex, which I purchased immediately and mixed up, hoping it would'nt have an ashtray aftertaste, and It did'nt.

Now funny thing taste, but as I said I loved State Express and 555, and although the Statex from TW was more or less the same taste, I could'nt help thinking there was something lacking, It needed some presence, even ordering some pre-made State Express from TW gave me the same feeling.

I can only put this down to the fact that I had moved on to mixing non-tobacco juices and perhaps my taste buds were telling me something. So with a little experimentation my 666 recipe was born, which is a 555/State Express but with a bit more peanut added for satisfaction.

AND NO ASHTRAY TASTE

Most people who start vaping search in vain for a juice that emulates ciggies, but never find it, and usually settle for something that's a close approximation. But as time goes by most will experience the dreaded ashtray taste.

I now have 3 tobacco type juices in my juice collection, the afore-mentioned F'art Ultimate Maxbro, my 666 recipe and RY-4 concentrate from Cloud 9. These 3 are not only my favourites, but satisfy my craving for tobacco when the urge takes me, and of course no ashtray aftertaste.

[roachieuk (aka eciggery2011)]

This is intresting mate cause you know the problems i had with the juice ive got.Im fine with RY4/CARAMEL mix im fine with LNB and fine with golden virginia from PV but when i orderd GV from VW it was awful just like licking an ashtray.You see its been the same ritual with me for the past month tbh.

I like to have a tobacco flavor when i get up in the morning with me first coffee and then i just mix around thru out the day and then go back to tobacco in the eveing.

[grizwald56]

Yes it's the same with me Roachie, first thing in the morning and night time. Although there are folk who do'nt vape tobacco juices at all anymore and seem to manage with fruit or other non-tobacco flavoured juices.

Makes me wonder if this is dependent on length of time spent smoking ciggies.

[Scylla]

Because my taste-buds have been nearly dead from Vaping Day One, I ordered DF (double flavour) Old Holborn from OKSmokey when it came out. What I got was DF Ashtray

When I first tasted "peanutty" in my e-juice I hated it but soon got to like it and now I miss it. Your 666 sounds super, Griz. I'm going to check what flavours I have (not a huge number but quite a lot of ml) and see if you can suggest what to add.

But I'm eating brunch at the mo

scylla

[grizwald56]

The recipe for my 666 can be found at the end of my post on mixing in the Mixology section of this forum.

[Scylla]

Yebbut-nobut, Griz I want to adjust an existing flavour cos I mustn't buy any more for a while.

I bought 36mg Flue Cured and RY4, thinking I'd save money by diluting them with PG & VG, then add some flavour - but have found that the DV Herbes de Provence makes the juice gradually go dark/dirty and not taste nice (can see it in clearos).

I keep promising myself to delve into your Mixology but it might all be too much for me

scylla

[grizwald56]

If you are going to add flavourings to your pre-mixed juices then I would advise caution, just use small ammounts to experiment with to start off or you could end up ruining the whole batch.

If you ever do want to have a go at mixing Drop me a PM and I'll take you through it step by step so you wont get it wrong.

GUARANTEED

[collie2011]

Jun 2, 2011 11:55:12 GMT Scylla said:

I keep promising myself to delve into your Mixology but it might all be too much for me

scylla

Put aside about an hour to read it all and then be prepared to go back in a few times more to take it all in lol. It's an awesome resource but there is an awful lot of info in there!!

[vereybowring]

Bugger, I am just into week 13 and not had this yet - I shall have to tread carefully and have alternate juices ready !

[grizwald56]

VB there are those folk that do'nt suffer this phenomenon and you may be one of the lucky ones.

[vereybowring]

Jun 2, 2011 12:20:36 GMT grizwald56 said:

VB there are those folk that do'nt suffer this phenomenon and you may be one of the lucky ones.

I hope you're right there, but I have many flavours at my disposal so would be fine anyway - I think.

[profbeard]

Ironically, there is a thread on the LF forum where people are complaining that they can't get the ashtray taste they want

[grizwald56]

Yes but they are noobs searching for that ciggie taste. In a few months they'll soon change their minds. Or most will anyway.

[Scylla]

Our Ian likes the ashtray and/or the raw tobacco taste.

scylla

[profbeard]

Jun 2, 2011 13:55:15 GMT grizwald56 said:

Yes but they are noobs searching for that ciggie taste. In a few months they'll soon change their minds. Or most will anyway.

No at all - they are "old timers" - each to their own it seems