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Hmmmm - I have a bag with me sometimes (dunno what a "man bag" is - I'm old), and have a BIG beard, and I wear hats and caps (wouldn't be seen dead in a beanie mind) - none of the rest applies to me thank heavens.... I assume you mean what my son calls "hipsters" - I get approached by them on occasion wanting to say "awesome beard man"....

We have one pub in y home town that has banned vaping because of cloud blowers. All the others I use allow vaping but will ask cloud blowers to desist or leave. I'll add that this has nothing to do with sub-ohm - it's about direct lung inhaling (clouds) versus mouth to lung inhaling (normal vapour production). I have all my RDAs coiled to between 0.3 and 0.8 ohms but don't lung inhale and hence don't annoy bystanders. Because I don't lung inhale I can use higher nic juice (and less of it) so no lack of satisfaction

This thread has been an interesting read! Like most (I suspect) long time vapers, I have boxes of all sorts of "old technology" - 801, 901,510 and even more obscure atomisers, single, double and treble coil Cartos, the original big fat cartomisers, CEx of most sorts, etc etc.. What it all this taught me is that ANY proprietary device has a limited life. I now have umpteen rebuildable drippers and mechanical mods - most of which will last for donkeys years - and I'm only dependant on wire, cotton wool juice and batteries.

This purchase was about as "spur of the moment" as it can get. I visited the Attysmith website more or less by accident (I was looking at my recent browsing history) and when the site opened I went to the Atties section as that what I have bought from Hellfire previously. To my amazement, in amongst the expected "out of stock" signals was a glowing red "add to cart" button. How could I refuse?

That was on Thursday night, and in typical Hellfire rapidity, my Havoc arrived Saturday morning.

The Havoc is a single or dual coil atomiser with adjustable airflow designed to accommodate both "old school" mouth to lung Vapers and those who like to direct lung inhale and those who chase clouds...

What did I get?

As always from Hellfire, I got a Jiffy bag containing:



Inside this was a snap bag containing:



... Spare o-rings, spare post screws, a solid (non-bottom-fed) pin, and what I would call a "chuff" drip tip.

And, of course, the Havoc:



The Havoc came with the bottom-fed pin fitted:



I don't squonk, so I got out my hex-keys and swapped the pin:



The top cap has a large opening to accommodate the supplied big-bore tip:



It is also has three cut-away areas on its inside rim which make up half of the air-flow control for either single or dual coil builds.

There is a metal insert for the top-cap which allows the use of standard drip tips:



The chimney pulls of the base to give access to the deck:



Note the well is decently deep, the positive terminals are offset providing a good area for both coils and wick, and the small raised parts on the terminals by the screws aid building by helping the screws trap the wires.

Here is the chimney viewed from its top end:



Note again the cut away areas - these match up with the ones in the top-cap and the openness of airflow is adjusted by the degree to which the chimney and cap cut-ways are offset from each other. The chimney needs to be appropriately oriented to the coils for single (using one slot) or dual-coil (two slots) builds.

Using the Havoc

I build mainly for mouth to lung vaping, so I put the insert into the top-cap:



Here is the simple single coil build I made:



And here it is tidied up and wicked with Puff cotton:



I replaced the chimney with the central cur-away aligned to the coil, replaced the top cap and adjusted it to give a fairly tight airflow. I had done the building with the Havoc screwed onto my NX80, so I started out with that:



Here are the "figures" for my initial trial:



How do I find it?

As I sort of expected (it is a Hellfire product after all), it all worked splendidly. I got a decent tight draw, excellent flavour and excellent vapour. I have tried the big bore tip and wide open airflow and it is seems to me those who like such things will be well pleased too. I'm very impressed by how well the Havoc seems to accommodate the full range of vaping styles.

I like this atomiser so much I have moved it onto something which to me seemed more appropriate and I am now happily using it on my Super T ELA with Satburn switch...

You only use Mechs - what are you doing with this?

Towards the end of last week I got a phone call from George at OK Smokey - I've known George for years and have used his "Roll Up" juices a lot - allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/59343/smokey-roll-own-flavours-revisited?page=1&scrollTo=1023247 - asking "do you still do reviews?".

"Yes" I said. "I have a new Aspire mod - would you review it if I send you one?" Asked George. I thought it would be an interesting experience:scratch: (the last regulated device I had was a Nuck's Fistpack) so I agreed. George also asked what tanks I used - I don't use tanks I replied - so he said he would send me a tank too.

So - I got these items free - but I will of course give my honest opinion!

Apparently the NX80 is a "tweaked" NX75 that isn't generally available yet and OKS have an "exclusive" on it:

www.ok-smokey.com/european-exclusive-aspire-nx80-stainless-steel.html

The NX80

A parcel from George arrived the next day containing the NX80 and an Aspire Cleito tank.

Here is the NX80 in its box:



In the box was the NX80 in a protective rubber shield:



A USB lead which can used for charging and downloading firmware upgrades:



A quality control ticket:



And an instruction leaflet in Chinese (didn't seem a lot of point photographing that) - I visited the Aspire site and downloaded an English NX75 manual to be going on with... Apparently a sheet should have been in the parcel separately - but had been overlooked.

The first things that struck me about the device was its weight - being machined from. Stainless Steel billet has resulted in a device which is very well made but I wouldn't want to carry it in my trouser pocket without tightening my belt a notch first!

Here are a series of shots of the device in its "just unboxed" state:



The button are simple and feel nice to use. "T" switches between and provides configuration of the temperature controlled mode (via the + and - buttons) - I'm Kanthal only so didn't try this out - and "W" switches between watts, volts and bypass modes. When the firmware update arrives, it should then also provide customisable personal configurations. Other functions (like child lock, changing the words on the display etc) are accessed via combination presses of the T/W/+/- buttons. I found all the stuff I actually wanted to do fairly easy to do.



One side has a USB port for charging (it will charge at 2A given the right supply) and connect to a computer for updating the firmware.



The top has a spring 510 connector and the bottom has a LOT of vent holes...

The battery compartment pulls out:



A very nice bit of machining. The NX80 uses button top 18650 batteries and it is not possible to replace the battery section with the battery inserted the wrong way up. I have a few telescopic mechs that will take 18650s (but don't tend to use that option much) so I had some very lightly used "big green Sony" batteries and I inserted one that I had charged in preparation. Here is the display following battery insertion (I set the device to 40 watts regulated and screwed on an atomiser with a 0.4ohm coil):



I notes that when I locked the device (the usual 5 clicks of the button) and switched it old down the button for 3 secs when locked) I was getting messages in Chinese. This was rectified by pulling out the battery and reinserting it whilst holding the firing button - this enables the language to be chosen.

I then customised the display to show my name rather than Aspire's.

In Use

I'm an RDA man so I decided to try it out using my Snapdragon with a pretty agressively sub-ohm coil (and with the glass top cap I bought at Vapefest fitted):



Exactly how aggressive the coil was (by my modest standards) is shown below:



I calculated that on one of my Mechs, at around 4v, a 0.2ohm(ish) build would be about 80W/20A, so I cranked up the NX80 to 80W. I was using Real Extracts Pecan Tobacco juice at 24mg with tight airflow and mouth to lung vaping.

It worked splendidly - nice fast fire-up, not too hot, excellent flavour and hit - just what I would have expected on a Mech with the same fresh battery.

I also tried the NX80 out with my Hellfire Sidewinder with a 0.4ohm coil at 40W and again got the results I expected.

As George had kindly sent me an Aspire Cleito tank, I also tried the NX80 with that too, but have written a separate review for that.

Conclusion

The NX80 is quite small and neat - I have shown it below next to a small mech - my 20mm Super T Precise Plus 18350 fitted with a Satburn switch and a 20mm Hellfire Short-Cranked Dripper:



It is, however, trouser-droppingly heavy! The build quality in mechanical terms is excellent, the electronic stuff seems easy to use and works (it provided a consistent vape until the battery dropped to "can't cope") and, despite the weight, it is a nice fit in the hand (I have quite small hands). If you want a small neat, well-made regulated device - this is is a good one at a good price.

So... Am I converted to regulated box shaped devices? No, although I like the NX80 and will certainly be keeping it (thanks George), as an "old school" high nic mouth to lung Vaper who is happy with drippers from 0.2 to 1.0 ohm - I prefer my little 18350 mechs for out and about (I would never go out without a spare battery regardless of device and a couple of 18350s weigh the same as one 18650). I just don't need the versatility or, indeed, consistency of this type of device and remain a dyed-in-the-wool "tubist".

I should add that the NX80 is great for (non-competitive) lung inhale clouds - see my Cleito review: allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/64969/prof-reviews-aspire-cleito

NOTE - I need to know if people are going to attend if possible!

I've made a booking and the next Stafford meet for Midlands Vapers (and anyone else for that matter) will be as follows (Note it is on MONDAY again):

Date: Monday 9th May 2016

Venue: The Sun Inn, Stafford (in the "back room")

www.thesunstafford.co.uk/

Time: 7pm til 11pm - I'm happy to arrive earlier if wanted. The Sun does very decent food (and good ale), so some might wish to arrive earlier and eat...

Please confirm if you are coming.

Please feel free to invite people on other forums and non-forum members

Why?

Hellfire Drippers are are some of the very best flavour devices out there (and I have a LOT of drippers). All my current HF Drippers are side air feed, so when I visites the Attysmith website and noticed the Sidewinder was in stock, I clicked "order". The Sidewinder is top air-feed and also short cranked (I have a couple of 22mm HF short-cranked drippers and really like them).

What did I get?

Very fast delivery for a start! I received the usual jiffy bag containing the usual pink bubble wrap bags - one with the device in and the other containing a Hellfire Keyring.

Anyway, here is the Sidewinder:



Towards the top of the cap is a nicely machined slot which exposes the top hole air feed (and enables you to see where the hole is ):



Here is the bottom end:



(you will note it has a "squonkers" connector fitted - I dont squonk - more later)

Here's the inside of the top cap showing the air feed:



Here is the deck - showing the crankable pole and the squonkers centre screw:



The website hadn't said the Sidewinder was bottom feed, and as a 100% metal tube mod man I was initially perturbed, BUT all was well, because the spare bag contained this:



Yes - a spare non-bottom-feed centre screw... Phew!

So, having found and used the right hex key, my deck looked like this:



Building the Sidewinder

I'd bought this as a flavour atty - and for that I favour chunky twisted Kanthal coils of around 0.7ohms. Here is the one I built (I i left the posts widely spacred by the way):





I then wicked up with Puff cotton and replaced the cap with the hole above the coil.

In Use

Here is the Sidewinder on one of my Super T Workhorse Telescopics (with an old-style Super T "wide-bore" tip - shows how time has changed - this is a narrow tip by modern standards):



I filled up with some NET from Real Extracts, and went at it - it works brilliantly - excellent flavour, good vapour production and (with 24mg juice) good hit.

I like this atty - I'll say no more