Smack My Batch Up

[fred]

OliverB
Dont be too disheartened, buddy. I posted yesterday that I thought my 10% blueberry was OK, and expected my 20% blueberry to be even better.

Well, what do you know - the 20% seems to have LESS flavour than the 10%. ???
And I shouldn't mention the 'fruity' mix - it's fruity all-right, but doesn't taste of fruit

So much for being careful and labeling and all that guff - sometimes it still (obviously) goes wrong.

Still, chin-up, let's try again.

[Roger]

It's a funny thing about mixing, that heavily flavouring, as fred mentions above, can sometimes result in seemingly less flavour in the finished product. Each flavouring does seem to have a 'useable' limit.

[fred]

May 25, 2013 13:32:46 GMT Roger said:

It's a funny thing about mixing, that heavily flavouring, as fred mentions above, can sometimes result in seemingly less flavour in the finished product. Each flavouring does seem to have a 'useable' limit.

Or it could just be my labeling

Ill do the experiment again just to make sure, but I want more blueberry taste than I've got in either 

[Roger]

May 25, 2013 13:43:29 GMT fred said:

May 25, 2013 13:32:46 GMT Roger said:

It's a funny thing about mixing, that heavily flavouring, as fred mentions above, can sometimes result in seemingly less flavour in the finished product. Each flavouring does seem to have a 'useable' limit.

Or it could just be my labeling

Ill do the experiment again just to make sure, but I want more blueberry taste than I've got in either 

It's been mentioned a few times over the years that over flavouring sometimes (not every time)seems to kill flavour.  It sounds odd.  I shall try an experiment with some crappy fruit flavour I've got in some PG, see what happens.  Or it could be your labeling!!!!! 

[collie2011]

May 25, 2013 13:43:29 GMT fred said:

May 25, 2013 13:32:46 GMT Roger said:

It's a funny thing about mixing, that heavily flavouring, as fred mentions above, can sometimes result in seemingly less flavour in the finished product. Each flavouring does seem to have a 'useable' limit.

Or it could just be my labeling

Ill do the experiment again just to make sure, but I want more blueberry taste than I've got in either 

Try it at 15%

[fred]

That's what the plan was if one was too strong and the other not enough - was going to mix a ml or 2 of each together.
Will it be OK to do that still (in the scientific research sense of it), or do you think I should mix a separate lot @ 15% due to the one batch being a bit duff?

collie2011 , it might be that my labels were the wrong way round, so in fact, the 10% is a bit tasteless and the 20% too weak, so then I'd have to try at 25% or 30%....

- and this is just 1 bl00dy flavour (ejmu has space for 7 ) - at least I'm enjoying doing it

[chykensa]

It is a learning curve, that's for sure! I still tend to over-flavour, but I have a sweet tooth and like loads of taste in my juices.
Funnily enough, mixing two or more flavours together results in some pleasing recipes - I think it must have some chemical thing going on, but whatever it is, I have some recipes (written down!) which I would certainly do again.
Andy

[Roger]

May 25, 2013 14:11:01 GMT fred said:

That's what the plan was if one was too strong and the other not enough - was going to mix a ml or 2 of each together.
Will it be OK to do that still (in the scientific research sense of it), or do you think I should mix a separate lot @ 15% due to the one batch being a bit duff?

collie2011 , it might be that my labels were the wrong way round, so in fact, the 10% is a bit tasteless and the 20% too weak, so then I'd have to try at 25% or 30%....

- and this is just 1 bl00dy flavour (ejmu has space for 7 ) - at least I'm enjoying doing it

Let us know what the result is please fred, it's interesting and good to add to the knowledge base. 

[fred]

May 25, 2013 14:23:15 GMT Roger said:

Let us know what the result is please fred, it's interesting and good to add to the knowledge base. 

What, of mixing the 2 together, or mixing a new batch @ 15%?

If I mix the 2 together, would it need to steep again being the same flavour?

[Roger]

May 25, 2013 14:28:46 GMT fred said:

May 25, 2013 14:23:15 GMT Roger said:

Let us know what the result is please fred, it's interesting and good to add to the knowledge base. 

What, of mixing the 2 together, or mixing a new batch @ 15%?

If I mix the 2 together, would it need to steep again being the same flavour?

I see what you mean!!   Both really, just interested to know how you get on.  If they both have already steeped and developed their flavours then not really.

[fred]

Roger
So,
I'll mix 1.5ml of 10%, and 1.5ml of 20% = 3ml @ 15%
Ill' mix a new batch 5ml @ 15%
and a new batch 5ml @ 25% (just for scientific research - I can always dilute it back to 10/15% if it is 'over-flavouring' causing the problem)

It may take a few days to get some empty bottles (only empties are minty), and of course a couple of weeks for the new batch, but watch this space.

Oh, & apologies to OliverB - roger & I seem to have hijacked your thread

[OliverB]

I am learning from your painstaking precision.

I have just shoved a shitload of Kent into a whole bunch of stuff.

That should do the trick, eh?

[fred]

May 25, 2013 15:06:39 GMT OliverB said:

I am learning from your painstaking precision.

I have just shoved a shitload of Kent into a whole bunch of stuff.

That should do the trick, eh?

Not if you put too much of it, it seems.
How long had they been steeping? Both of my blueberrys smelled & probably tasted like paint stripper for about a fortnight. Now they're 5 weeks, and the one is OK, just not enough flavour, and the other tastes of nowt really - now I wonder if I got the labels muddled.

I'm guessing kent is tobacco flavour? Not had any tobacco flavour at all, yet, in my 65 days of vaping.

[OliverB]

I don't think a shitload is too much, is it? That would be a huge shitload.

Dunno. The original juices had been left alone for over a couple of weeks. I'll leave this consolidated kentoffeenutscotchilla blend in the cupboard another couple of weeks, or perhaps forever.

[fred]

May 25, 2013 15:39:34 GMT OliverB said:

I don't think a shitload is too much, is it? That would be a huge shitload.

Dunno. The original juices had been left alone for over a couple of weeks. I'll leave this consolidated kentoffeenutscotchilla blend in the cupboard another couple of weeks, or perhaps forever.