First recoil - no joy - help!

[chykensa]

Hi all
Have tried unsuccessfully 3 times to recoil a Nova head. I'm using .2 Kanthal and 2mm silica wick. I wound 5 on top, 4 on the bottom, using the sewing needle to allow some space, but the best Ohms I got was 1.4, plus a load flash and pop on one test fire with a drop of juice on the coil.
Am I close? Is it just a matter of plugging away until I'm successful, or so I need to do something differently?
You sage and considered advice would be welcome as always!
Andy

[Roscopecotrain]

Sound like your pretty close andy. Not being doing it long myself so only suggestion is to make sure coils are all evenly spaced, you can do this with small screwdriver once you have done the coil and then fire it up with no juice just to make sure the coil has no hot spots and heats up evenly.

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[chykensa]

Thanks for the encouragement Rosco, and just out of interest, if I want to raise the resistance do I coil more or less times? Haven't quite got my head around this business yet!
Andy

[Roscopecotrain]

More andy but 5 coils would normally give you 1.5 to 2.0 ohms i have found. Well for me anyway and i am using the same wire as you and 3mm wick.

When i first started it took me quite a few goes to get it right and then when i did finally get one right i had no flavour aa the coil was to tight. Once you gey to about 10 you will be whipping them out like there is no tomoz.

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[Roscopecotrain]

The flash and the pop im guessig is a short somewhere andy so just make sure the coil isnt touching anything it shouldn't and that the wire is properly trimmed off at the bottom both inside the rubber grommet and between the grommet and head so as not to short there.

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[Deleted]

Hi Andy like Roscope has said by the time you get to ten tries you be knocking them up blind folded, well maybe not but you get my drift.

Some info you may know or not but might come in useful.
Copy and pasted info

LOWER OHMS OR HIGHER VOLTAGE
Allow more electricity to flow
Creates more heat at the coil
Creates more vapor
Provides warmer vapor
May intensifying or diminish flavor
Will drain your battery quicker
Dry hits are more likely
May cause premature battery failure
Uses more juice per puff, more refilling
HIGHER OHMS OR LOWER VOLTAGE
Allow less electricity to flow
Creates less heat at the coil
Creates less vapor
Provides cooler vapor
May intensifying or diminish flavor
Will drain your battery slower
Dry hits are less likely
Doesn’t cause premature battery failure
Uses less juice per puff, less refilling.

If your first attempt was 1.4 then your doing well.

Good Luck

[Greigster]

As Rosco said, 4/5 wraps should give you around the 2 ohms mark when using 3mm. wick, but of course if you are using 2mm. wick then your ohms will be less due to the total length around 2mm. will be less than the total length around 3mm. If you have 1.4ohms then add another 2 wraps, so 6/7 but you will be restricted by the space available. The flask and pop was almost certainly a short. Just make sure that the coil is not touching the sides and make sure that the legs are not touching the sides.
It does take a few attempts to get it right but believe it or not after a dozen or more coils, you will be able to wind the coil without looking or worrying about the spacing.
Keep at it because the rewarding pleasure you will feel when you get it right will make it all worth it.

[fred]

chykensa

Do you have thinner wire?
0.16 Nichrome was what I used for 2.2ohms

Not sure of difference in resistance of nichrome/kanthal, but thinner wire will give you higher resistance.

As rosco saaid, the pop was probably a short - make sure your leads are away from the side of the head as you put the wick in the slot, then pull them tight once you've got the 'bottom bung' in place. Test on meter before chopping the ends off, then you can adjust if needs

I managed first time (probaably lucky) -but, never met you, but can guarantee you'll get there.

Good luck mate.

[chykensa]

Would I have enough space inside a Nova head to double up the wick and cut down the number of coils - not sure if I can get the turns close enough to make 6 or 7 as recommended!?
Andy

[djs]

Don't listen to closely to me (I'm rubbish at all this) but 1.4ohms seems pretty strange. (Not necessarily good though). Although I seem to have a poor success rate a.t.m. with rewick/coils but I get 2.2-2.4 almost every time using 0.2 wire and 2mm wick.
My ohms are fine, it's my taste that sucks....

[DiscoDes]

It sounds like your main problem is that you're getting the legs of the coil shorting to the metal in the head. make sure the wire that runs to the centre pin does not touch the side. Any resistance between 1.5 to 2.8 ohms can be used on a non VV battery.

[chykensa]

Thanks DiscoDes - I'm aiming to use it on a Vamo. I think I need to take more care getting the 'legs' straight and tight before I pop the rubber stopper on.
I also need to invest in a decent pair of snips to cut the tails off as close as possible to the base of the head.
Thanks for the replies so far and keep 'em coming!
Andy

[DiscoDes]

May 30, 2013 21:38:31 GMT chykensa said:

Thanks DiscoDes - I'm aiming to use it on a Vamo. I think I need to take more care getting the 'legs' straight and tight before I pop the rubber stopper on.
I also need to invest in a decent pair of snips to cut the tails off as close as possible to the base of the head.
Thanks for the replies so far and keep 'em coming!
Andy

chykensa Nail clippers are ideal, it's quite soft metal.

[OneDay]

Andy two things from me. Firstly, the resistance of your coil is not dependent on the number of coils but on the total length of the wire (although obviously a longer wire lets you wind more coils). Secondly, the very best thing for snipping wires are those little nail clippers

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The vamo will allow 1.2 ohms anything lower it will show as low. At the moment I am using a 1.4.