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Post by lynxkat on Jun 16, 2013 0:43:50 GMT
First of all, in my opinion, in the longer term, “Vaping” needs to distance itself from the term e-cigarettes, if possible ? (which in most peoples eyes and the media means an e-cig look alike at present, from my experience.) as you all know “Vaping” as we know it, is a totally different experience. But as stated, they don't.
To me, this is the main problem, how to achieve that is a different question which needs a lot of input, from people like “you”. So let's put that aside for the moment and look at the original question, which is far easier to deal with.
1. Wherever you live, you will have a Local Newspaper, you should simply contact their News Desk and ask to speak to a reporter, and voice your opinion, on vaping or whatever for that matter, and give them all your contact details. 2. If you have a simple good quality head and shoulders pic of your self that you could send them, then that would help, or they may make an appointment with you to send a photographer to take one. 3. News Agencies look through all local Newspapers and lift and sell on, any topical news stories to National Newspapers. 4. That's just one route how local News Stories, make National Headlines. 5. Even if they make no immediate response, they have your contact details and may contact you in the future, when they seek a local voice on such an issue.
This is a route, that makes National Headlines although it may seem simple and naive. But this is where you come in and play an active role, contact your local Newsdesk. They will take notice.
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Post by ChillerVapes on Jun 16, 2013 6:19:52 GMT
How about getting behind the glass of the new bbc news room? Anyone can stand there.
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Post by ChillerVapes on Jun 16, 2013 6:23:34 GMT
I work for my local newspaper and would gladly do it but (and it's a big but) I am kind of useless and expressing myself when under pressure. God knows how I get jobs because in every interview I've had I just crumble.
I don't think I would be able to say the right things orget thw point over correctly and end up making the whole situation worse.
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Post by mel on Jun 16, 2013 9:15:08 GMT
I have been wondering about this myself. I have been trying to restrain myself from contacting anyone as I thought ECITA or someone would be coming up with an action plan as it all seems to have gone a bit quiet about it. I expected the troops to have had some instruction and guidance about an action plan by now.
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Post by fiddles on Jun 16, 2013 9:21:01 GMT
How about all the female members here doing a Femen style protest Tis bound to get Plenty publicity
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Post by womble on Jun 16, 2013 11:11:27 GMT
I have been wondering about this myself. I have been trying to restrain myself from contacting anyone as I thought ECITA or someone would be coming up with an action plan as it all seems to have gone a bit quiet about it. I expected the troops to have had some instruction and guidance about an action plan by now. It's ECCA which are the consumers group, ECITA are the vendors group and work for themselves, while they are doing a great job, they are really looking after the vendors. not the consumers. While I was at ECCA as rep for AAEC, this was one of my points, I have lots of people on AAEC who want to do something, lets do something. You might guess the outcome, as I am no longer the rep and ECCA isn't doing anything. I've no doubt ECCA will have a robust defence why they aren't doing anything, but it wasn't down to me trying while I was there.
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Post by giles on Jun 16, 2013 11:29:53 GMT
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Post by lynxkat on Jun 16, 2013 13:15:46 GMT
I have been wondering about this myself. I have been trying to restrain myself from contacting anyone as I thought ECITA or someone would be coming up with an action plan as it all seems to have gone a bit quiet about it. I expected the troops to have had some instruction and guidance about an action plan by now. It's ECCA which are the consumers group, ECITA are the vendors group and work for themselves, while they are doing a great job, they are really looking after the vendors. not the consumers. While I was at ECCA as rep for AAEC, this was one of my points, I have lots of people on AAEC who want to do something, lets do something. You might guess the outcome, as I am no longer the rep and ECCA isn't doing anything. I've no doubt ECCA will have a robust defence why they aren't doing anything, but it wasn't down to me trying while I was there. Why don't you start your own group Womble, you would get plenty of support from the people on here, look how they responded to your resignation.
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Post by womble on Jun 16, 2013 13:30:24 GMT
I'm really not the right person for that and that was never any intention of mine lynx. I haven't got the time nor aptitude to run something like that. I will however want to help if someone else sets something up. I think giles is right, a political action group is probably the way to go unless ECCA gets itself sorted out and gives people some direction and something to aim towards.
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Post by markm on Jun 16, 2013 13:41:27 GMT
I think the ECCA have made a good choice, they suffered from schizophrenia over the past years. Having a fundamental principle of keeping vendors at arm length, due to the consumer protection element, made it impossible to actively participate in promotional activities. I don't think there was ever going to be a way forward for the dual role notion.
A politically active consumer rights organisation need have no reservations about joining with any of the interested parties to defend/support/promote vaping as a life choice. Being able to get vendors involved is a great way to spread the word, I don't think there is a high percentage of vapers on the boards, seems like the same people on most forums, so the point of sale is the universal contact point.
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Post by Blownupdolly on Jun 16, 2013 13:44:34 GMT
I agree. ECCA is supposed to represent US, the consumer, but even though a large percentage of us want to stand fight and be heard, nothing seems to be happening and no liaising with the people they profess to represent has been forthcoming. I am very much like womble. I am desperate to help and support action,and be very much at the heart of it helping out, but I know my limits, and know I am not the right kind of person to be a leader. This is the problem. Not many people have the confidence to see themselves that way. Another problem I see is the splintered up pockets of vapers throughout the country, depending which forum they frequent and even those who don't use any of them. How do you pull all of us together to fight as one unit?
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Post by beautycat on Jun 16, 2013 14:01:36 GMT
How about a you tube , video /stills, taken at one of the meets with sound or a voice over
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Post by Blownupdolly on Jun 16, 2013 14:07:39 GMT
How about a you tube , video /stills, taken at one of the meets with sound or a voice over That's not a bad idea Karen. I wonder if that photographer at the meet could do that? He was a lovely guy.
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Post by Blownupdolly on Jun 16, 2013 14:10:38 GMT
I was chatting to Elfish last night. I don't know her real name, but she said she was listening to LBC the other day and one of the female presenters admitted she was a vaper on air! She said that the device she uses looks nothing like a cigarette. I am going to find out her name and email her for advice. Dont ask don't get is my motto. She will obviously have a lot of media contacts.
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Post by womble on Jun 16, 2013 14:34:31 GMT
How about a you tube , video /stills, taken at one of the meets with sound or a voice over Don't forget there is smoke without fire as well. I think they will do a good job of videos. What's needed IMO is someone who the media can call on for interviews, instead of ECITA. Someone with a name of an organisation behind them for example. That organisation needs to put out regular press releases to keep itself in the spotlight. Vaping needs a face beyond ECITA on the news. And that organisation also needs someone who's only job is to contact and have discourse with politicians. The question is, will a new organisations name carry the same wieght as something like ECCA, or has ECCA no real name out there anyway? I am wary of splintering our forces even more than they are, but I think vapers need one name to get behind. But I really don't think there is any point just getting an AAEC group together for example, it needs to have support across all the forums, whether that support would be forthcoming or not?
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