Can someone help - clarify the new RM rules

[stewarty]

Jul 13, 2013 12:00:55 GMT raid2506 said:

Jul 13, 2013 11:57:51 GMT stewarty said:

I only vape @ 18 - 20mg but the use by date is normally about 18 months away so you can easily use it in that time.

If you you fire a bottle in the freezer it will keeps for another couple of years more.

Haha, like I plan that far ahead!

Just a plan B incase it becomes more difficult to get

[OneDay]

So anyway, back to the original question -

It seems nobody knows the full answer yet

[Promethian]

Has anyone had any deliveries from Nicvape since they imposed these new regulations?

[alvoram]

In short, anything that carries a hazard symbol, you know... Toxic, Flammable, and so on is prohibited unless it falls under one of their 'consumer exceptions' which E-Liquid does not... YET

Batteries are actually allowed provided they meet certain conditions and are packaged correctly. They must be either in a device or with a device, so your Ego's are fine, so are 18650's sent with a vamo for example. But an 18650 on it's own is not ok.

[OneDay]

Jul 13, 2013 12:59:40 GMT alvoram said:

In short, anything that carries a hazard symbol, you know... Toxic, Flammable, and so on is prohibited unless it falls under one of their 'consumer exceptions' which E-Liquid does not... YET

Batteries are actually allowed provided they meet certain conditions and are packaged correctly. They must be either in a device or with a device, so your Ego's are fine, so are 18650's sent with a vamo for example. But an 18650 on it's own is not ok.

So if I need new batteries, which I do, I have to order a new mod to go with them??? Feckin madness!!!!

[alvoram]

Actually one day, I don't think it specifies that the batteries be of a type to fit the device they are sent with

Scratch that: "The maximum number of lithium batteries allowed in each parcel is the minimum number required to power the device plus two spares." I think that kind of covers my little idea

[djs]

If this is what the Royal Mail says

I have checked our restricted and prohibited goods and this item does not fit into any category therefore you are able to send e liquid within the UK, under the conditions that the liquid is securely package correct to prevent any spillage. I have supplied the link below for our packaging guidelines to help you further;

www.royalmail.com/business/help-and-support/I-need-advice-about-wrapping-and-packaging?answer=19354705

We are alright for now then.

[alvoram]

Jul 13, 2013 13:10:08 GMT djs said:

If this is what the Royal Mail says

I have checked our restricted and prohibited goods and this item does not fit into any category therefore you are able to send e liquid within the UK, under the conditions that the liquid is securely package correct to prevent any spillage. I have supplied the link below for our packaging guidelines to help you further;

www.royalmail.com/business/help-and-support/I-need-advice-about-wrapping-and-packaging?answer=19354705

We are alright for now then.

Unfortunately not DJS, just another case of a misinformed customer service agent. The product falls under dangerous goods as it contains nicotine, and bears the toxic logo. If the person asking the question doesn't specify that it bears the toxic logo, you can't expect every customer service agent to be aware of this.

[stewarty]

Jul 13, 2013 12:50:52 GMT Promethian said:

Has anyone had any deliveries from Nicvape since they imposed these new regulations?

Got one from Nicvapes this morning but don't think it comes into force until Monday ???

[Promethian]

About time some-one came up with a 20p LED lightbox that will accept 4 Lion batteries

[alvoram]

If anybody still wants more clarification, here is the leaflet, the part that affects E-liquid is the second page, scroll down, the part where it mentions the hazard warning images. Batteries sent with and in a device are on the first page.

www.royalmail.com/sites/default/files/Royal-Mail-Prohibited-and-Restricted-Items.pdf

[djs]

Jul 13, 2013 13:13:08 GMT alvoram said:

Jul 13, 2013 13:10:08 GMT djs said:

If this is what the Royal Mail says

We are alright for now then.

Unfortunately not DJS, just another case of a misinformed customer service agent. The product falls under dangerous goods as it contains nicotine, and bears the toxic logo. If the person asking the question doesn't specify that it bears the toxic logo, you can't expect every customer service agent to be aware of this.

Oh dear.

Are the RM deliberately trying to lie down and expire?

[alvoram]

Jul 13, 2013 13:22:41 GMT djs said:

Jul 13, 2013 13:13:08 GMT alvoram said:

Unfortunately not DJS, just another case of a misinformed customer service agent. The product falls under dangerous goods as it contains nicotine, and bears the toxic logo. If the person asking the question doesn't specify that it bears the toxic logo, you can't expect every customer service agent to be aware of this.

Oh dear.

Are the RM deliberately trying to lie down and expire?

They haven't stopped listening djs, there is hope

[Deleted]

My last lot of batteries from FT came in a battery box wrapped in bubble wrap and FT do like to use sellotape, good luck to RM if they want to bother with all that. Dave

[djs]

Jul 13, 2013 13:24:53 GMT alvoram said:

They haven't stopped listening djs, there is hope

Maybe. You'd imagine them wanting to take as many parcels as possible right now, what with going up for sale and all that.