Kayfun lite on a mech mod tips please anyone?

[poochops]

Hi I'm currently using my kayfun on a mech mod with a kick set at 10 watts, the atty is coiled to 1.7 ohms and it vapes just how I like, however I want to use it in 350 mode and I can't get a decent vape from it at all.

Here's my thinking, using the same mod and after taking out the kick and inserting a fully charged 18650 battery, my 1.7 ohm coil should be hitting 9.5 to 10 watts, (given a fresh battery is 4.1-4.2 volts) but its absolutely rubbish to be honest with very little taste and 50% less vapour. Obviously as the battery runs down so will the vape and it'll happen a good deal faster when I use an 18350. 

I guess the mod, a sigelei 8w, is taking some of the voltage hence the poor performance, so is there anything I can do to reduce this, and any tips on how I'd coil the kayfun to say 1.0 ohm or less, or any other tips if I'm missing something? 
Thanks all 
Si

[poochops]

Hi. Any pointers to wicking a KFL with a sub ohm coil anyone?
thanks

[Mev]

not sure about a sub ohm single coil but you could try making a micro coil, i use one on my kayfun lite that is about 1.3 ohm I if I remember correctly. It's been in there a while now and i jut keep changing the wick.

[markm]

Couple of things, voltage drop under load will be .4v or more if everything isn't
Spotlessly clean, so your calculations are a bit optimistic.
The second is, be very carefully going below 1ohm on an 18350 battery, most
Will be close to amp limit at full wack.
The last, to reduce the resistance on a coil there are two factors, the length and diameter
Of the resistance wire, fatter/wider for lower ohms.
Check on an ohms law calculator and then cross check max drain amp rating
For your batter, just to be safe.

[blakey]

Are you talking evolv kick or sigelli kick?
The sigelli suffers from a struggle to boost power as well as the true kick as the battery drains

Either way, as mark says above- clean the points of contact on the kick, clean the parts of the mod that the kick comes into contact with.
Then clean the 510 connector on the mod and make sure the switch is also clean
There is no reason why an 18350 wont power a 1.7ohm coil at 9w. What condition are your batteries in? how new are they? which make?

[poochops]

Thanks for the replies guys, I'll try to answer with one post.
The issue isn't with the kick which works fine, it's a sigelei and I can vape all day at 10 watts and a Sanyo 18500 icr battery but the kick isn't really the problem I'm trying to understand
The 18350s which I want to use without the kick are Torchy 850mah flat tops and Im led to beleive they are imr, and also i have Efest 800mah imr button tops. The torchy are supposed to be high drain, and the efest says high drain on the label, do you have any opinion on them?
All are less than 12 weeks old and have been charged no more than a dozen times each if that, because we have been using 18650s mainly in vv/vw mods.
The calculation was straight off the ohms law calculator and I understand that the power will suffer losses through the mod, it's virtually brand new and looks clean as youd expect, but tomorrow after work I'll do as you suggest and clean all the contacts, I guess meths will remove any grease/muck that's on it?
I'll do the same with the sig19b and the udt mod and see if any of them behave differently and post up.
Thanks for now
Cheers
Si

[ukric]

Just tried sort of the same set up, 1.8 on the KFL and an old basic battery that came with the lavatube (should be less reliable?) and it seems no different to the Provari on 4.2 to me. I haven't cleaned down the 8w since I got it.

[jimthecarper]

I use the KFL with various devices.
1,7 ohm wick on an N-Zonic V3 mech mod (2.volts drop under load) and it vapes pretty good. 18650 AW fully charged lasts me most of the day but when it gets down to about 3.8 volts I can tell the difference and swap battery's.
1.3 ohm wick on a mech mod with Sigelei Kick flat out has more hit, but seems to loose flavour on any style and height of wick.

[Mev]

Aug 29, 2013 0:54:36 GMT ukric said:

I haven't cleaned down the 8w since I got it.

dirty git

[poochops]

Well I cleaned it but to be fair it's brand new so whether or not there was anything to clean off is debatable, the connector still looked pristine. Tried each of the batteries and the efests were marginally better than the torchy ones but barely noticeable. The vape was the same on the 19b and noticeably less on the UDT, so I'm flummoxed especially as ukric is getting good results on the same mod out of the same batch and with a similar coil.
Good news is I recoiled it to 1.2 and its now hitting the spot on a bare 18350 so I'm happy with that, particularly as I've another couple of mechanical mods on the way which I bought specifically to use in this format, the only pita is that at 1.2ohms I can't swap it over to a vw mod to do some 15w vaping without recoiling the KF.
Gonna try and borrow a test meter to check the voltage drop on the mods because its doing my head in as to why I'm getting a poor vape, I imagine its a good deal more than .2v jimthecarper but then the N-Zonic is nearly five times the price of the sigelei's so there might be a clue there!
Can anyone confirm the torchy batteries max safe amps? I'm thinking dual coils on the new Rose atty when it arrives.
Thanks
Si

[Mev]

you could buy a Semovar III as it'll do 1.2 ohm coils..

[poochops]

I could Mev, but would 13 mods be one too many?

Nah, I'm at a plateau at the moment with where I want to go tbh, I'm done with dripping, my gennies are on the back of the rack, I'm loving silica rebuildables right now and I'm leaning towards dinky mechanicals rather than vv/vw. Once the next atty and mods arrive I'm going to spend a month or two on the learning curve then decide how I want to continue and get rid off some stuff so I can trade up to maybe just a couple of high end mods and attys

Won't happen like that but you gotta have a plan eh