iatty problems

[camperman]

i bought 2 of these on the second day of release but i have only just got around to putting them together earlier today and i have a small problem in that when you watch imeos youtube video on assembley on the ceramic part he puts on 2 O rings of the same size but in my pack of O rings their was 4 different sizes of O ring, 1 for the mouthpiece 1 for the eliquid chamber and 2 for the ceramic part but the 2 meant for the ceramic were both completely different sizes 1 of them being tiny and wont go anywhere near the ceramic but luckilly i have taken the one from the second kit i purchased for the time being.

was this just noticed by me or have others had this problem ?
what is this tiny O ring for ? or have i missed something ?
it seems to be working great if a little airy but great vapour and throat hit and no leaks yet.

[ian]

I had exactly the same problem Mark.The tiny o-ring is for the ceramic,and it does go on.I managed to push it on with my thumb but you are correct,in Imeos video both o-rings were the same size.Its stupid if you ask me,i gave up on the first day but managed to squeeze the thing on the ceramic on day two :)Sold it on day three as its just not the rite atty for me.

[VE Jason]

Can I ask...why do they come in pieces, can they not be pre-assembled?

[eyebrook]

As I understand it people didnt want to wait for them to be assembled, It would have taken Imeo ages to do this

[camperman]

Jul 16, 2011 19:20:18 GMT ian said:

I had exactly the same problem Mark.The tiny o-ring is for the ceramic,and it does go on.I managed to push it on with my thumb but you are correct,in Imeos video both o-rings were the same size.Its stupid if you ask me,i gave up on the first day but managed to squeeze the thing on the ceramic on day two :)Sold it on day three as its just not the rite atty for me.

maybe thats why yours leaked then ian ???

have a look at the picture and the number for the O rings

[VE Jason]

Ah right.

The reason I say that is that personally I always find it better to disassemble something myself - that way you seem to remember better where everything goes

[deesigner]

I am pretty sure that the tiny O rings were an afterthought by Imeo to make it easier to get the ceramic cup in place. Unfortunately they have to be forced so much that mine had broken in half when i had to check why it was leaking again.

I've replaced mine with one from the cheap kit I purchased only problem is that they have a wider circumference - thank goodness for nail files! I've had to file a little off it all around to get it to go in.

My I atty is working like a dream now. I'm only using around 30 drops of liquid a day now. I haven't tried filling the Iatty up as I'm not bothered about a tank, but the vape I am getting from it means I can put it down for an hour or so a time, where as previously I was vaping constantly.

I'm actually glad that they came in bits, I understand how it works now which I never would have done had it come ready assembled. I can put one together in a couple of minutes which means any problem solving is so easy

[ian]

No,i had it put together perfectly Camper.Its when you try and fill the tank up that it leaks.As Dee has said, if you dont make your coil perfectly and you have any bumps in it whatsoever then you get leakage,its just not worth the faff.After going back to my Arry tanks the vape is exactly the same anyway.It is really just a rebuildable clearomiser with the design of a G4.I also dont like the cone on it,and there are other issues which concern me which im sure you will all find out soon.It was giving me a dizzy feeling which after reading Andy Suttons post on UKV i found out what was happening.It needs to be redesigned and the plastic part where you put the wires needs to be metal.

[imeothanasis]

Ian, what are the other issues which concern you and which you are sure we will all find out soon? As for the leackage you said, it happens when you try to refill it? From where the leackage comes? And when you say that you have to make a perfect coil, what do you mean? If you mean that you have to put the coil all of it inside ceramic thats a fact. But where is the dificulty?

You also said that you dont like the cone of Iatty. What exactly do you mean?

What Andy Saton said on UVK forum? And why the plastc parts have to be metal?

You dont give me any real info here.

[VE Jason]

The post by Andy Sutton is in this thread Imeo

ukvapers.com/topic/7126-no-more-help-needed-with-my-new-i-atty-its-sold-now/page__st__80

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[imeothanasis]

Thanks a lot VE:)

thats my answer to Andy's post and to some other posts:

If you really want to have a serious desision about me you have to read more guys. Dont count on other's opinions. E.g. Justin never liked me and he tries really hard to badmouth me. His reasons are unknown. So before you make any desisions please talk with others too. Making a quick desision because you got impressed by some posts is not the right way. I am sure you know that.

Anyway, I came here because someone send me the link about Andy's post. Andy, I would like to answer to your concerns. First of all, there is no way for the fiberglass to come to your lungs because wick is inside liquid. Many modders use this wick but because I want the best for my people I worked very hard to find the wick from China that E2 use and I will sell it in about 1 week. But if you dont like the fiberglass for some reason you can put the material you want inside Iatty, thats not a problem. Its irelevant with Iatty design.

In my videos I shaw and I said that resistance wire has to be inside ceramic. The reason that I put ceramic is that it cant get burned. If plastic was suitable to vaping I wouldnt put the ceranic inside Iatty. So you cant leave the resistance wire to touch the plastic, thats obvious. But if you see the E2 you will realise that the plastic around the wires is very very near to the resistance wire, more near than the wire on Iatty. That means that you vape plastic all the time with E2 to my opinion. But if you make the coil in the right way inside Iatty you will be more than ok.


ps...... The E2 has the silicon cup on the ceramic too. Its very near to the wire too if you notice. But Iatty has a metal cone instead of it.
Also the A2 has a plastic under the bolt. If resistance touch this plastic or whatever it is it will get burned and you will have plastic in your mouth. Only on Iatty you can avoid those things by making the resistance in the right way.


ps2........ Andy, I cant read forums as you know because I am really buzy so it would be very nice if you could come on GG forum to post any concerns you have. We will talk much better there if you agree:)

[ian]

I was meaning a portion of what Andy Sutton said only,regarding the plastic part where you add the wires..In my honest opinion this is the weak point of the setup, and if it was made out of metal instead of plastic no melting could occur.Im not the only one who has had this problem,i think if that one part was changed for metal the atomiser would last for life.I cant see this part available,so what do people do when it totally melts away?I added all the heating wire into the ceramic cup easily but still this one part where you add the wires gets affected during vaping.I agree with Andy and burning plastic is not a great thing to be breathing into your lungs.For the cost of the i-atty i would never have expected to see a plastic part to add wires to to be honest,surely if this ONE PART could be made out of metal it would save people having such issues.Im not trying to be awkward or talking rubbish at all,im telling you my point of view and my experience with the i-atty.As for the cone,i use 100% PG juices and it kept flooding until i totally closed the cone,when the cone was fully shut the atomiser didnt flood but i got a burnt metal taste.Leakage came from the connector, but both o-rings are fitted to the ceramic and ceramic is fitted in stable and securely.Im guessing that i didnt have it screwed in hard enough or that part of my wire was to thick?When i say you have to make a perfect coil i mean that the slightest bump in the wire could cause the parts not to fit tight enough?is this what causes leakage?

[Dell]

Jul 17, 2011 13:21:05 GMT ian said:

I was meaning a portion of what Andy Sutton said only,regarding the plastic part where you add the wires..In my honest opinion this is the weak point of the setup, and if it was made out of metal instead of plastic no melting could occur.Im not the only one who has had this problem,i think if that one part was changed for metal the atomiser would last for life.I cant see this part available,so what do people do when it totally melts away?I added all the heating wire into the ceramic cup easily but still this one part where you add the wires gets affected during vaping.I agree with Andy and burning plastic is not a great thing to be breathing into your lungs.For the cost of the i-atty i would never have expected to see a plastic part to add wires to to be honest,surely if this ONE PART could be made out of metal it would save people having such issues.Im not trying to be awkward or talking rubbish at all,im telling you my point of view and my experience with the i-atty.As for the cone,i use 100% PG juices and it kept flooding until i totally closed the cone,when the cone was fully shut the atomiser didnt flood but i got a burnt metal taste.Leakage came from the connector, but both o-rings are fitted to the ceramic and ceramic is fitted in stable and securely.Im guessing that i didnt have it screwed in hard enough or that part of my wire was to thick?When i say you have to make a perfect coil i mean that the slightest bump in the wire could cause the parts not to fit tight enough?is this what causes leakage?

Well as most know by now I had very similar experiences and not unsurprisingly I too feel the same about the I atty's design.

It should be remembered though that we are currently in a club of just two people. So there is every chance that we are just both very wrong about the situation.

[ian]

I agree Dell,i just feel that if that one part was metal then it would solve USER ERROR problems,incase you should by accident leave a little of the heating wire out of the ceramic.

[imeothanasis]

Ian, you mean that even if the whole resistance wire is inside ceramic you have a plastic taste? I dont think so Ian. The only person that says this is you.

If someone makes a mistake and put the wires in the oposite way I can send him a replacement. You have to be careful when you drive so you have to be careful when you vape or taking a bath not to slip on the bathroom. The thing is that Iatty works exellent when you know what to do as you have to know what to do with all mods. I am not responsible for people that cant do it in the right way (witch is easy by the way)

Vaping plastic is not a great thing we agree on that. So the solution is to make the resistance right, simple

You say that if you close the cone you have burn taste, if you open the cone you flood the atomizer. How much time you spend to find the right position for you? Cone doesnt do that huge difference Ian, exept you totally open it or totally close it

Leackage came from the connector. Ok, did you tight the plastics? !

perfect wire doesnt exist. You only need to make close and tight threads around wick and put all the wire inside ceramic. Simple and nice. How more easier I had to make the Iatty? Where is the dificulty with this design? You make the wire, you put it around wick, you put wick inside slots and you put the cone. Isnt cone a nice feature when you are able to control the liquid? What other atomizer have this option? What are you doing with other atomizers when you have burn taste? Nothing


Dell, I know your problems and I know that you had a big conversation with cliff about your issues. I think you didnt spend time with Iatty at all.


ps...... Ian, I could make the plastic parts from steel. But you had to put thermoplastic around the no resistance wires. Wouldnt be this more dificult for you?