Bottom coil versus Mod

[Bluefish]

Spheroid is the best atty I've ever used.

[poochops]

Agree with 300 that what's on top would make the biggest difference to your vape, but IMHO there's no point getting a spheroid or a kayfun/Russian etc only to have an ego to stick it on when it arrives, it'll perform poorly and look daft. Whereas a mod will give you the best out of your clearos while you save up for a rebuildable, just my opinion mind

[giles]

I don't believe there is any vaping difference between a mod and a ego-sized variable volt. Mods are handy for other reasons (time between charges, telling you how much battery is left etc). The only thing that mods can add to the vape is extra volts, but if you use a low resistance atty then the spinner at max volts will probably burn your juice anyway.

My evods vape exactly the same on my spinners and on my vamo.

I never put a rebuildable on a spinner before but I just checked and my Nautilus and aga-t (two commonest designs of rebuildable) vape just the same, though they look a bit silly. You would need to buy a multimeter if you rebuild unless you get a mod which tells you the resistance, but they are pretty cheap and useful to have anyway.

So if you are strapped for cash and using an ordinary ego, I'd buy a spinner. And spend the difference on multimeter, wick and wire to rebuild your evods.

Do you rebuild your evod & protank heads? If not, I'd start with that. They are if anything easier to rebuild than the true rebuildables. Some people reckon they get a much better vape with different wick material, with micro-coils and so on.

If you are interested in seeing how far your vaping journey can take you, then chances are you will eventually get a mod, but you'll also eventually want a spinner too, because mods are a bit clumsy to carry around.

The iclear is a nice vape, not better than evod/protank, just different (warmer, for a start). Some prefer it to protank/evod (I do, a bit), but some don't. It is possible to rebuild the iclear heads, but such a hassle that I don't think anybody actually does it. The Nova with dual coil gives the same sort of vape, and is a bit easier to rebuild.

The benefit from a rebuildable depends on your juice and how you vape. It is kind of heresy to say so, but I don't think the vape from my rebuildables is any better than from my rebuilt dual-coil nova with my coffee & chocolate confections. It is different though, so I can see why some might prefer it. And I haven't tried to build a dual coil on my Nautilus yet.

[charon]

Oct 11, 2013 0:57:24 GMT giles said:

I don't believe there is any vaping difference between a mod and a ego-sized variable volt. Mods are handy for other reasons (time between charges, telling you how much battery is left etc). The only thing that mods can add to the vape is extra volts, but if you use a low resistance atty then the spinner at max volts will probably burn your juice anyway.

My evods vape exactly the same on my spinners and on my vamo.

I never put a rebuildable on a spinner before but I just checked and my Nautilus and aga-t (two commonest designs of rebuildable) vape just the same, though they look a bit silly. You would need to buy a multimeter if you rebuild unless you get a mod which tells you the resistance, but they are pretty cheap and useful to have anyway.

So if you are strapped for cash and using an ordinary ego, I'd buy a spinner. And spend the difference on multimeter, wick and wire to rebuild your evods.

Do you rebuild your evod & protank heads? If not, I'd start with that. They are if anything easier to rebuild than the true rebuildables. Some people reckon they get a much better vape with different wick material, with micro-coils and so on.

If you are interested in seeing how far your vaping journey can take you, then chances are you will eventually get a mod, but you'll also eventually want a spinner too, because mods are a bit clumsy to carry around.

The iclear is a nice vape, not better than evod/protank, just different (warmer, for a start). Some prefer it to protank/evod (I do, a bit), but some don't. It is possible to rebuild the iclear heads, but such a hassle that I don't think anybody actually does it. The Nova with dual coil gives the same sort of vape, and is a bit easier to rebuild.

The benefit from a rebuildable depends on your juice and how you vape. It is kind of heresy to say so, but I don't think the vape from my rebuildables is any better than from my rebuilt dual-coil nova with my coffee & chocolate confections. It is different though, so I can see why some might prefer it. And I haven't tried to build a dual coil on my Nautilus yet.

+1 for this, of course we know I16 gives a great vape, but as it's a dual coil job it does tend to be a thirsty beast IMO.
however this great pastime of ours is all about variety and enjoyment. So horses for courses I would say. (or in the venacular..Suck it and see)

[snout71]

Oct 11, 2013 0:57:24 GMT giles said:

Do you rebuild your evod & protank heads? If not, I'd start with that. They are if anything easier to rebuild than the true rebuildables. Some people reckon they get a much better vape with different wick material, with micro-coils and so on.

No i dont currently rebuild my evod/protank heads, maybe thats where i should start.
after all i believe i will be vaping for years to come (government willing of course) and maybe i should learn how to re-wick/rebuild heads on evods etc first.
so a spinner, multimeter, wick and wire maybe should be my first port of call.

Just seeing that innokin itaste 134 took my breath away, its a sexy piece of kit in a gatling gun sort of way

[Roscopecotrain]

Oct 11, 2013 7:58:23 GMT snout71 said:

Oct 11, 2013 0:57:24 GMT giles said:

Do you rebuild your evod & protank heads? If not, I'd start with that. They are if anything easier to rebuild than the true rebuildables. Some people reckon they get a much better vape with different wick material, with micro-coils and so on.

No i dont currently rebuild my evod/protank heads, maybe thats where i should start.
after all i believe i will be vaping for years to come (government willing of course) and maybe i should learn how to re-wick/rebuild heads on evods etc first.
so a spinner, multimeter, wick and wire maybe should be my first port of call.

Just seeing that innokin itaste 134 took my breath away, its a sexy piece of kit in a gatling gun sort of way

Thst would be a good start. The only thing to mention is that it looks like you will end up with mods so why not buy one now so then you dont need to buy a multimeter to test your heads. Win win in my book. For the cost of a spinner and multimeter there is your vamo kit. I only say this because i bought a spinner. Loved the vv so went and bought a vamo straight away and have been on mods ever since. If you like the look of mods then i would say get one and then at a later date if you fancy something smaller fpr out and about grab a spinner if not you have saved money. All this is my opinion only mind

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[markm]

Take the red pill, it's fun down the rabbit hole:)

[giles]

Oct 11, 2013 8:08:37 GMT Roscopecotrain said:

For the cost of a spinner and multimeter there is your vamo kit.

Depends how strapped you are for cash Rosco. Vamo is about half as much again (Multimeter £2-79 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIGITAL-MULTIMETER-CIRCUIT-TESTER-MULTITESTER-VOLTMETER-TESTER-WITH-BATTERY-/160737091237?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item256cad5ea5 1300 mah Spinner £23 www.vapeescape.co.uk/Vaping-Spares/Batteries--Passthroughs/Vision-Spinner-1300.html ;Total about £25.

I don't know what the best slowboat price on a vamo is with batteries & charger - $59 = £37? From the UK a lot more.

And a multimeter is handy when you are rebuilding to check resistance of lengths of wire, check assemblies to find out where the short is etc as well as household stuff.

But all still less than a weeks' smoking, and I suspect snout71 will get a vamo and won't regret it, but we are writing for the lurkers as well.

And the vamo is nice. Truth to tell, I bought mine before I bought my spinners

[snout71]

Vamo i think it is then. just wondering tho if i might be better off buying the batteries and nightcore charger in the uk ?

what with all this battery at customs business

[crin766]

Im in the same boat - looking for a rebuildable to get the most out of the vamo. Is tgere anything worth ordering from fastech at the same time. Whats the Oddy like?

Failing that is there a cheap but decent uk option?

[snout71]

regarding recoiling/rewicking which is the best gauge kanthal wire i have read different gauges! and there are different wick isnt there?

been trying to find a post guide anyone got any links?

[Roscopecotrain]

Oct 11, 2013 15:54:04 GMT snout71 said:

regarding recoiling/rewicking which is the best gauge kanthal wire i have read different gauges! and there are different wick isnt there?

been trying to find a post guide anyone got any links?

What are you re wicking snout?

As for batteries and charger it might be an idea to get them from over here as easier to send back if anything goes pear shaped.

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[snout71]

i would be rewicking and recoiling evods and kwx10 (mini protank clone) all have kanger coil heads in them

[DiscoDes]

Oct 11, 2013 16:34:16 GMT snout71 said:

i would be rewicking and recoiling evods and kwx10 (mini protank clone) all have kanger coil heads in them

Get 0.2 kanthal and get some 1, 2 & 3mm Ekowool, I use that all the time to do Protank/Evod type heads, did about 30 the other weekend

Links:
www.stealthvape.co.uk/rebuildable-supplies
www.vape-atomizer-mesh.com/products/Kanthal-A1-Heat-Resistance-Wire.html
www.vapegear.co.uk/Ekowool_Silica_Cord/p1826719_9806844.aspx

[giles]

Personally I use 3mm ecowool and 0.15 NiCr atm, but there's a thread here

Yep, vamo & maybe an intellicharger slowboat, and batteries from Torchy on eBay - www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-Panasonic-NCR18650PD-10A-discharge-3-7v-18650-li-Ion-batteries-case-/290978087900 for instance.