Kayfun Lite vs Kayfun V3.1

[Super-Shiny]

Out of the two what one do you think is best (not size or price based)

[sleepyduck]

Is this a trick question ???

I thought the only advantages of the Lite were that it was smaller and less expensive...

Anyway, I don't have a 3.1 so I don't really know. Too big and expensive for me

[Super-Shiny]

Oct 20, 2013 19:14:33 GMT sleepyduck said:

Is this a trick question ???

Kinda, it was more along the lines of the filling, is there problems, even though (i think) the design is the same but is it prone to leak or anything, i am just looking as i want something with air control but if there is any filling issues than that would put me off, with the KFL i did not have any filling issues but that has a different way of filling.

[sleepyduck]

OK, I get it now

Still don't know the answer

[bear2249]

Going to keep an eye on this. Im thinking of getting one as i love the light but its a little airy for me.

[ginge7289]

Ill throw my 2 pence in the mix -

3.1 - Pro's - Easy filling, airflow adjustment (but I only use it on a fresh wick then open it up like the KFL.) Never had this leak at all (But I think the KFL only leaked a little due to user error)
Cons - Massive in size, How long will the filling hole work ???

KFL - Pro's - Smaller
Con's - Fill screw becomes annoying (especially when your rewicking everyday for HoL juice), no adjustable airflow (Which is why I think it does not work with certain juices)

So my conclusion, get a 91%

No serious out of the two, if you can deal with the extra few mm on the 3.1, then get that one.

[sleepyduck]

Oct 20, 2013 19:30:51 GMT ginge7289 said:

So my conclusion, get a 91%

(Been looking for a chance to use that smiley )

[oldsmokey]

A guy I work with let me try his KFL and I found it very airy (too airy for me). Some people put a scrap of mesh in the air hole to tighten up the draw.

I have the 3.1 and I would not swap it for anything I have tried. For me the airflow control is a critical factor in getting the best out of the Kayfun (it effectively acts as an airflow and juiceflow control, so it alters just how rich a vape you get). I have the airflow control screw screwed in a fair bit as I like a bit of resistance. With the airflow control screw all the way out the 3.1 is probably just as airy a the Lite.

I recently bought a second 3.1 (I like it that much!). I have had no problems with the filling valves. I know a guy who has 4(!) and he has had no problems either - but I have read that some folks have.

I think it is crucial to only use the correct filling bottle and to invert the atomiser and use the 'pulsing' technique when filling. I have no other atomiser which is so quick, efficient, clean and pleasant to fill. However I have been told that if you use a standard needle bottle to fill (even once) you will almost certainly wreck the valve seat. I have also heard that some 100% VG juices (the high viscosity ones) can gum up the filling valve and make it stick - possibly causing a leak. You can however backflush the valve to clean it out. However the 3.1 is maybe not the best atomiser for thick juices.

I have had my first 3.1 for about 4 months now, and it continues to perform faultlessly day after day. The build quality is also stellar. I know there are clones about now, but I doubt any will beat the original!

[kirrielad]

Prefer the 3.1 myself, so easy to fill and the adjustable air flow seals the deal for me. Then there's the hybrid factor matched with the semovar, win-win!

Worries about the valve long term tho, surely something's gotta give eventually??

[blakey]

Oct 20, 2013 19:47:50 GMT kirrielad said:

Prefer the 3.1 myself, so easy to fill and the adjustable air flow seals the deal for me. Then there's the hybrid factor matched with the semovar, win-win!

Worries about the valve long term tho, surely something's gotta give eventually??

There is no reason why that valve won't remain trouble free as long as its kept from sticking, a quick flush every now and again resolves any gunking issues
Personally I have never had an issue with the filling valve on the 3.1, the only reason I prefer the lite is purely down to size.
The 2.1 employs the same filling valve as the 3.1 and I use them regularly and without issue, as stated above -pulse the juice into the attie and make the ball in that valve move back and forth with every fill and it's unlikely to stick.

[ginge7289]

Oct 20, 2013 19:46:44 GMT oldsmokey said:

I have the 3.1 and I would not swap it for anything I have tried. For me the airflow control is a critical factor in getting the best out of the Kayfun (it effectively acts as an airflow and juiceflow control, so it alters just how rich a vape you get). I have the airflow control screw screwed in a fair bit as I like a bit of resistance. With the airflow control screw all the way out the 3.1 is probably just as airy a the Lite.

I would agree with the air flow working as a juice flow. I have noticed it works well.

The airflow around half way out is similar to the KFL, im a fan of an airy draw so it works well for me, but as I said before keeping it tight on a fresh wick brings the flavour through a lot better than the KFL.

[Greigster]

I have had several 3.1 Kayfuns and never used the filling hole after the first one developed a sticky valve. Soon sorted with a flush through using hot water but after the first one, I always filled from the top. A little bit of a learning curve but never had any more problems.

[markm]

With any atomizer there are three factors to consider.
1/ the coil, on a rebuildable that's up to you.
2/ the wicking, -for your question that's the same as no1
3/ airflow, as that also affect wicking on most devices the answer to your question lies
In wether your draw is already within the parameters of the device or if you are happy to adjust
The way you vape to get it working at its optimum. As the kayfun is a bottom coil device
The juice flow is particularly sensible to the differential air pressures created by how
The user draws air through it. For me getting the adjustable airflow set and then leaving it
Is worth the extra expense in the long term.

[jonn]

 I only have the 2.1 and the KFL to compare, but the 2.1 one is deffo the chart winner.
From the day I got it, the filling valve on the 2.1 has never worked well, so filling only from the top, but I don't find it to be an issue, in fact in the 8 months of using it I've become a pro filler of the Kayfun mini - my best time is 12 seconds!   I don't think I can put the filling screw back in on the KFL in that time...
Even though the airflow screw is mostly fully open on my 2.1, I do tinker with it from time to time, especially after recoiling. The KFL's draw is OK, still I wish it had the adjustment screw. The airflow adjustment is worth the extra money if you are after a top top atty.

[Super-Shiny]

Buggered either way, no Kayfun 3.1 or Russian 91% in stock in the UK