Diver Rebuildable Cartomizer

[iLardyboy]

Anyone tried one if these? Are they any good and worth the price?

[4madcats]

I've got 2 Divers & 2 Killers, flavour & vapour is excellent in both, but for ease of use the Diver wins. Think Kayfun 3.1 for the killer & Kayfun lite for the Diver. Only issue with the Diver is the default is flanged so it might leave you with a gap between tank & mod, depending which tank you use. You can buy a flangless version but you have to specify it.

Sorry forgot to say defo worth the price specially if you already have suitable tanks, if not you have to factor that in, so expect around the same price as a KFL.

[iLardyboy]

Oct 25, 2013 13:21:22 GMT 4madcats said:

I've got 2 Divers & 2 Killers, flavour & vapour is excellent in both, but for ease of use the Diver wins. Think Kayfun 3.1 for the killer & Kayfun lite for the Diver. Only issue with the Diver is the default is flanged so it might leave you with a gap between tank & mod, depending which tank you use. You can buy a flangless version but you have to specify it.

Sorry forgot to say defo worth the price specially if you already have suitable tanks, if not you have to factor that in, so expect around the same price as a KFL.

Thanks for the info mate. Would the diver fit ok in a F16 carto tank? Would you rate it on par with rebuildable attys?

[4madcats]

Never used an F16 myself, but size wise the Diver is the same width as a carto, but about 3mm longer, so you might have top sticking out.
Re RBA's depends which you mean but I'd defo put them on a par with Kayfun's & equivalent.

[iLardyboy]

Oct 25, 2013 13:35:36 GMT 4madcats said:

Never used an F16 myself, but size wise the Diver is the same width as a carto, but about 3mm longer, so you might have top sticking out.
Re RBA's depends which you mean but I'd defo put them on a par with Kayfun's & equivalent.

Thanks again mate. Sorry to keep going on but, do you ever have flooding issues with them? What wick and wire combination do you use in it?

[4madcats]

iLardyboy On a Diver very very little flooding, if it does happen it usually down to the positon of the center pin, if it's pushed in too far it can act like a wick & draw the juice down through the bottom, or filling if you get air trapped in the wick chamber which wont allow the silica to wick & can give you simultaneously a dry hit & leaking from the bottom. I usually fill mine by removing the top cap & pushing the Diver down a little so the hole is covered, fill the tank, put the top cap back on so the tank is just starting to grab the o-rings then flip it & twist/snap the top cap back all the way, that's usually enough to get rid of excessive air in the body & then push the Diver all the way up, only a couple of mm or so.

Personally I use the res no res method with .20 kanthal & 2mm ekowool, your going to be struggling with anything thicker then that cos of the ceramic cup. If you don't want to go that route then your looking at .26 kanthal, don't like myself cos I think there's too much of a lag for it to heat up.
I've tried the micro coil method but TBH I do think they'er a lot of extra faff for virtually the same results (I is lazy).

Only other thing to watch for is how low you let the juice get, if you let it get down to just above the airhole when you tip to vape you can expose the airhole, letting air in instead of juice, result you'll disrupt the wicking process & that can result in flooding, not to severe but annoying all the same, very gurgley vape.

The Diver is like all things RBA you'll probably have to fiddle a bit at first before you find your own sweet spot. 

[iLardyboy]

Thanks for all your help 4madcats. This sounds right up my street, will have to make a purchase when I get the funds.

[300]

Diver is a good performer, easier to set up than the Killer.

Had a Sophia delivered earlier this week, not tried it yet but looking forward to having a play this weekend, have high hopes for this one.

[stu1873]

I have a Flangeless Diver that i use in my AGR+ Tank. They work well together but the diver will lose a few drops of liquid from the bottom pin if left for some time from my experience.

The good thing i like about the Diver / AGR+ setup i have is that i can remove the Diver from the tank for filling thus reducing the chance of flooding the Diver when filling.

I find that it is the same for performance as my Killer 705 and just as easy to setup. Great flavour and vapour production as well.

Next up for me is a Sofia by Leo when funds suffice.

[ginge7289]

I had a diver, I could not get it to work. It wanted to leak all the time May have been my fault but I got rid of it because it was a faff (for me)

If I was in the market for something similar I would get the sophia.

[4madcats]

The Sophia is a hybrid of the Diver & Killer & IMO actually more Diver then Killer, the only good thing potentially are the adjustable airholes in the connector, handy if you want to use it on a Provari, but personally I'd rather just buy a Hippo & stick with what I've got, I ain't going to be rushing out & buying one

[ginge7289]

Oct 25, 2013 21:50:06 GMT 4madcats said:

The Sophia is a hybrid of the Diver & Killer & IMO actually more Diver then Killer, the only good thing potentially are the adjustable airholes in the connector, handy if you want to use it on a Provari, but personally I'd rather just buy a Hippo & stick with what I've got, I ain't going to be rushing out & buying one

Yep I agree about it being a combination of the two, but It is a lot more thought out than the other two, the diver is a tube with a hole in it, the killer is just a PITA and so far there is no bad words being said about the design and function of the sophia, plus it appears to be leak free which is a lot more than I can see from the other two. But as always its personal choice and I just want the OP to know he has options and rush into buying stuff