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Post by markm on Dec 15, 2013 23:47:45 GMT
Would help if it had a key. Or it could mean oranges on one axis and kittens on the other. These charts only really work for basic devices, such as cartomisers. maximum settings are determined by how fast the wick feeds juice to the coil. The vape gets warmer but the coil remains cooled by the evaporating juice which, assuming its capable of feeding the juice fast enough, will keep the coil operating temperature down to that at which your juice vaporises regardless of watts used.
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Post by Greg on Dec 16, 2013 18:35:47 GMT
These charts only really work for basic devices, such as cartomisers. maximum settings are determined by how fast the wick feeds juice to the coil. The vape gets warmer but the coil remains cooled by the evaporating juice which, assuming its capable of feeding the juice fast enough, will keep the coil operating temperature down to that at which your juice vaporises regardless of watts used. I don't follow that at all, what do you mean by the chart doesn't work. I understand juice feed speed will alter the temp of the coil but it will have no or very little effect on the coil resistance and therefore the chart stands on any device in terms of power, voltage and resistance. I see how it could effect the vape quality though.
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Post by markm on Dec 16, 2013 19:36:10 GMT
Well its saying that there is a limit to the voltage versus resistance to achieve a good vape. I am saying the relationship is better described as power (Watts) versus wick performance.
The resistance/volts combo I prefer would put me into the top right hand corner - once my battery started to fade a bit.
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Post by Dan on Dec 18, 2013 12:16:23 GMT
I second Vape Escape for the kick v2.
Use the discount code and it'll work out at £42.45 delivered next day by rm special delivery.. order before 2 for same day dispatch.
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Post by izan on Dec 18, 2013 13:19:54 GMT
Well its saying that there is a limit to the voltage versus resistance to achieve a good vape. I am saying the relationship is better described as power (Watts) versus wick performance.
The resistance/volts combo I prefer would put me into the top right hand corner - once my battery started to fade a bit.
M, please post your Power Vs wick porformance chart. I think most use the "Safe Vape chart" as a quick table of results. NOT as law. I can estimate Ohm's law in my head, but if the maths have been done for me, I'll just take a peek. So, since the "SVC" is useless, please enlighten us with yours. Thanks I Remember, more then 90% of vapers in the world use cig-a-likes. I wait with breath abated...
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Post by markm on Dec 18, 2013 17:07:45 GMT
I really have no idea why you are intent on picking a fight. I was simply trying to point out that the chart, in terms of what it is suggesting is more relevant to either class 1 or perhaps class 2 devices. I use class 3 and I'm currently vaping at 29 Watts, if I can get my wick sorted out I will take it higher.
the chart is simply an ohms law ready reconer - the shaded areas were once a useful guide, but have become outdated more recently.
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Post by Greg on Dec 18, 2013 19:44:19 GMT
I really have no idea why you are intent on picking a fight. I was simply trying to point out that the chart, in terms of what it is suggesting is more relevant to either class 1 or perhaps class 2 devices. I use class 3 and I'm currently vaping at 29 Watts, if I can get my wick sorted out I will take it higher. the chart is simply an ohms law ready reconer - the shaded areas were once a useful guide, but have become outdated more recently. Yes but to be fair your probably in a small minority in terms of members on this forum and therefore the chart is very pertinent for most here.
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Post by markm on Dec 18, 2013 20:15:06 GMT
to be fair it implies anything outside of the indicated range might be dangerous, which is nonsense. Any VW device would take you easily into a "danger" zone. And as for suggesting it might melt the "solder" - well really!
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Post by Super-Shiny on Dec 18, 2013 20:19:03 GMT
I myself do think that simple guides help, some people i.e new members might be put off with all the technical stuff and may even put them off from vaping, keeping things simple is the best way i think, those who know beyond that than great and good for them. I myself prefer simple
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Post by Greg on Dec 18, 2013 20:42:00 GMT
to be fair it implies anything outside of the indicated range might be dangerous, which is nonsense. Any VW device would take you easily into a "danger" zone. And as for suggesting it might melt the "solder" - well really! I don't wish to get into an argument @markmand clearly your a very experienced and advanced vaper unlike myself but you asked earlier why another poster seemed intent on causing an argument, in my view and I may be wrong it's because your coming across as somewhat elitist by making statements that most dont understand or are likely to adopt. Fairplay to your knowledge, but let's let sleeping dogs lie and move on I say. No offence intended mate, just expressing how I see it
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