New York ban.

[vereybowring]

New York City has adopted a ban on vaping indoors.

They have basically added e cigs to the existing smoke free legislation so its all banned in any public place indoors.
The Bloomberg paradise becomes even more of a rich mans personal toy.

[imogensmummy]

As in public places or indoors anywhere?

[djs]

nypost.com/2013/12/16/bloomberg-trying-to-ban-e-cigarettes-is-silly/

[Super-Shiny]

Their loss

[vereybowring]

Dec 18, 2013 19:41:38 GMT imogensmummy said:

As in public places or indoors anywhere?

All indoors apart from private residences.
However loadsa people rent in NYC so like many smokers no doubt many will have to go outside.

[newdawn]

Dec 18, 2013 19:54:04 GMT vereybowring said:

Dec 18, 2013 19:41:38 GMT imogensmummy said:

As in public places or indoors anywhere?

All indoors apart from private residences.
However loadsa people rent in NYC so like many smokers no doubt many will have to go outside.

Unless it's specified in your lease, you can vape without hassle.

[toots]

Why the hell is everyone 'rushing' to get bans in place all of a sudden?! It just seems like everywhere you turn these days, some government official or whatever is going full steam ahead to ban e-cigs as soon as they possibly can. They're all coming out with the same ol' arguments and its as if e-cigs are the biggest plague on the earth   It's just crazy

[djs]

I agree Toots.

Can it be coincidence? So many things....my brain hurts.

NY are throwing the book at people selling e-cigs to under 18s. (as in criminal prosecution...)
Maybe if the UK had done this, the "think of the children" argument might have been less of a sob story for the ANTZ.

[tracerace1]

link
check this out guys eu voice report on the debate this morning

[fiddles]

Dec 18, 2013 21:18:58 GMT toots said:

Why the hell is everyone 'rushing' to get bans in place all of a sudden?! It just seems like everywhere you turn these days, some government official or whatever is going full steam ahead to ban e-cigs as soon as they possibly can. They're all coming out with the same ol' arguments and its as if e-cigs are the biggest plague on the earth   It's just crazy

this is the answer





They want the tax revenues

[toots]

Dec 18, 2013 21:22:31 GMT djs said:

I agree Toots.

Can it be coincidence? So many things....my brain hurts.

NY are throwing the book at people selling e-cigs to under 18s. (as in criminal prosecution...)
Maybe if the UK had done this, the "think of the children" argument might have been less of a sob story for the ANTZ.

Hey djs They debated that very same thing in the UK on a video stream I watched yesterday - making it a criminal offence for vendors to sell e-cigs to under 18s

Oh, and get this too, for a normal pack of cigarettes they're going to bring in a ban on packs of 10 analogue cigs, due to them being cheaper so kids can afford them, but in the new restrictions for e-liquid that Clive Bates put out on his website sales of ONLY 10ml would be allowed once the new e-cig rules come into effect. Go figure

[toots]

Dec 18, 2013 21:27:59 GMT tracerace1 said:

link
check this out guys eu voice report on the debate this morning

National governments, concerned about the unknown long-term health effects, wanted them to be regulated as medicines.

Oh, but they couldn't care less about the 'known' health hazards of smoking normal cigarettes!!! You can buy them anywhere and everywhere!!!

[toots]

Dec 18, 2013 21:28:21 GMT fiddles said:

Dec 18, 2013 21:18:58 GMT toots said:

Why the hell is everyone 'rushing' to get bans in place all of a sudden?! It just seems like everywhere you turn these days, some government official or whatever is going full steam ahead to ban e-cigs as soon as they possibly can. They're all coming out with the same ol' arguments and its as if e-cigs are the biggest plague on the earth   It's just crazy

this is the answer





They want the tax revenues

  We should adopt that song to play to the EU and all member state governments at all their e-cig debates

[tracerace1]

I feel like you toots.....mad very mad its worse than rationing in the war!!!!!
well there was resistance then...oh and the BLACK MARKET! we gotta fight for our rights yes?

[andy01424]

Toots like most Countries they did not anticipate the rapid growth in th eEcig market, now its booming etc , they all have missed jumping on the bandwagon,so while Mr China has made a tidy profit ,they havent.........now they will do anything till they do .....problem being only way is medical...so Govs could still miss out and hand companies massive profit increases while they rake little in to the tax coffers