The Rise of the E-Cigarette:

[andy01424]

ITV from 7:30pm to 8:00pm[Tonight]
In just seven years E-cigarettes have grown from an obscure Chinese import to being at the centre of one of the biggest public health debates for a generation. Chris Choi looks at what is in them, why some countries have banned them while others have welcomed them as a lifesaver, and how they could be regulated in the future. SUB
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[markm]

If nothing else they have recognised how big an issue vaping is.

[charon]

Jan 23, 2014 8:50:35 GMT markm said:

If nothing else they have recognised how big an issue vaping is.

Indeed they have and now the faceless eurocrats are attempting to Litigate us out of existance.  So much for democracy

[markm]

Jan 23, 2014 8:59:38 GMT charon said:

Jan 23, 2014 8:50:35 GMT markm said:

If nothing else they have recognised how big an issue vaping is.

Indeed they have and now the faceless eurocrats are attempting to Litigate us out of existance.  So much for democracy

Which is why we need to get after the ones we do know the names of, the ones we get 
to vote for, they still have an opportunity to fix this before it's too late.
contact your MP and MEPs and tell them what you think!

[gibla53]

Chris Choi's blog entry looks interesting t.co/UiiY8N6uTn Could be a very good programme (hopefully positive)

[markm]

Mmmm, we shall see.

[markm]

This bit sounds interesting:

"I was amazed to hear how strongly the World Health Organisation
is willing to express its reservations about E-cigarettes."

[charon]

Jan 23, 2014 9:07:00 GMT markm said:

Jan 23, 2014 8:59:38 GMT charon said:

Indeed they have and now the faceless eurocrats are attempting to Litigate us out of existance.  So much for democracy

Which is why we need to get after the ones we do know the names of, the ones we get 
to vote for, they still have an opportunity to fix this before it's too late.
contact your MP and MEPs and tell them what you think!

Indeed yes we do all need to keep on at "our duly elected representatives".  The only problem I can forsee is if the vote goes our way, then the faceless backroom boys will try other methods to stop us. Perhaps with greater vigour, as we have had the termerity to dare challenge their "professional and considered recomendations".

[markm]

I have been thinking......there is a question we all need to start asking of the
"But we just don't know" brigade,
"They have been around long enough now, a great many studies have been done,
Why are you CHOOSING not to know?"
once you recognise this position as a choice then what they say sounds like,
"we just don't WANT to know"

[Deleted]

Jan 23, 2014 8:50:35 GMT markm said:

If nothing else they have recognised how big an issue vaping is.

And how much money they are loosing. But choosing to ignore the health benefits vaping brings to the table.

[markm]

Jan 23, 2014 13:29:06 GMT striker42 said:

Jan 23, 2014 8:50:35 GMT markm said:

If nothing else they have recognised how big an issue vaping is.

And how much money they are loosing. But choosing to ignore the health benefits vaping brings to the table.

In this instance they, are ITV, so I don't think they have any financial involvement,
but I get your point in the more general use of "they"

[Deleted]

Jan 23, 2014 13:34:02 GMT markm said:

Jan 23, 2014 13:29:06 GMT striker42 said:

And how much money they are loosing. But choosing to ignore the health benefits vaping brings to the table.

In this instance they, are ITV, so I don't think they have any financial involvement,
but I get your point in the more general use of "they"

Sorry Mark, wires crossed. When I referred to "they" in my post I was talking about the blazers yesterday that sat on their arses and decided what is best for us. 

[OneDay]

Let's not pre-judge this programme until we've seen it, otherwise we're guilty of doing what we accuse 'them' of, i.e. making judgments without evidence.
Chris Choi took the time to appear on Dave Dorn's show as part of his research. Lets wait and see what he comes up with.

[kibbster]

No matter what, watch sales of ecigs rocket after mass media coverage.
I've had numerous people at work today telling me about this program and Daybreak.

Ladies and gentlemen, we are about to become mass market ;-)

Sent from my GT-N7100 using proboards

[markm]

Personally I'm hoping for nothing more than the beginning of some grownup debate
On the subject, instead of the childish mud slinging we have seen from the decision makers.