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Post by kibbster on Jan 27, 2014 12:55:02 GMT
It's not inevitable they will smoke or vape kibbster My 19 year old son has never smoked. My daughter smoked for a couple of years then gave up when she wanted to start a family I'll prepare for the worst, hope for the best :-) Sent from my GT-N7100 using proboards
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Post by fisher on Jan 27, 2014 14:49:00 GMT
The whole publicity thing is confusing some people. One person I had persuaded to give proper e-cigs a go today informed me that she wasn't going to bother as they are going to be banned. Didn't matter what I tried to tell her after that
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Post by lobeydosser on Jan 27, 2014 15:32:39 GMT
The subject of that program came up in a camping forum that I am on, the same one that put me onto e-cigs in the first place. Some of the comments about e-cigs from Joe Public would turn your hair white. Whilst they were watching the same program that I watched, coupled with what they had already "learned"(???) about e-cigs, well Vapers are Smokers in disguise and we should all be banned outright before our vapour starts killing their children. Or words to that effect. Oh and e-cigs are just a modern version of hypodermic syringes and nicotine is more addictive than injecting heroin.
These are the idiots that vote in the politicians that will eventually rule on what becomes of vaping.
What chance have we got????
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 17:18:21 GMT
Everything in this world is ludicrous ( you know the crap that busy body arseholes try to enforce).
We have underage drinking, smoking, drug taking, underage pregnancies, a fall in education standards, immigration issues ( my patents were immigrants so I'm not being racist), housing issues, welfare exploitation, power , energy , resource issues, etc etc etc.
And they pick on the ecig.
Same old crap, different decade, different topic to deviate from the real issues.
( bad day at work).
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Post by djs on Jan 27, 2014 17:57:44 GMT
Everything in this world is ludicrous ( you know the crap that busy body arseholes try to enforce). We have underage drinking, smoking, drug taking, underage pregnancies, a fall in education standards, immigration issues ( my patents were immigrants so I'm not being racist), housing issues, welfare exploitation, power , energy , resource issues, etc etc etc. And they pick on the ecig. Same old crap, different decade, different topic to deviate from the real issues. ( bad day at work). @purple1234 for PM! I agree.
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Post by kibbster on Jan 27, 2014 18:14:37 GMT
For those who want to watch the various news reports about this today.. Channel 4: Sky News: BBC: That Sky "Dr" should be out burning witches or checking if the earth is flat rather than adding to a discussion that is way above her mentality... and agenda. Of course the fact she works for Pfizer would have nothing to do with her bias...
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Post by Phoenix . on Jan 27, 2014 18:50:15 GMT
'Where there's a will there's a way,', kids will find a way round this ban if they have a mind to. What good has it done banning the sales of cigs to under 16yrs old? None, kids start smoking as soon as they start junior school these days and often their parents buy/give them cigs. Ludicrous law that they cannot police.
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Post by lobeydosser on Jan 28, 2014 0:28:24 GMT
My first ciggies were Nelsons and Bristols and we could buy them in singles from the local shop. We were at Primary School then. By the time we were at Secondary Scholl we were right gallus and were on to Capstan Full Strength! Back then you could buy B&H in packets of 3 and Nelson and Bristol in packets of 5.
Och aye. These were the days. Under 16? Away and raffle yersel'.
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Post by mikeb on Jan 28, 2014 0:33:02 GMT
Don't forget the law will only ban the sale of ecigs to under 18s, it will still be perfectly legal for an adult to buy them for a minor. It will be illegal to buy tobacco for a minor, a point the media seem to have overlooked this weekend. And of course until the government defines what an ecig is legally it will be business as usual for the traders who don't care who they sell to.
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Post by lobeydosser on Jan 31, 2014 0:59:51 GMT
Don't forget the law will only ban the sale of ecigs to under 18s, it will still be perfectly legal for an adult to buy them for a minor. It will be illegal to buy tobacco for a minor, a point the media seem to have overlooked this weekend. And of course until the government defines what an ecig is legally it will be business as usual for the traders who don't care who they sell to. But surely this is just as it should be. If my son or daughter was an under aged smoker, I would be bending over backwards to get them onto e-cigs as soon as possible.
So, to me it is common sense to ban cigarettes to people under 18 but not e-cigs that adults buy for them.
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