help!! mod setup problems / mod newbie

[purkle]

Aye Greg, that's what I'm thinking. Any idea how I could rectify this? Maybe try & find an o-ring which is the right size & try squeeze it in with the centre pin so it stays put? Although if both batteries are now RIP then not much point!

[Adam78]

If it was me I'd leave battery A in the charger for an hour and then test the voltage again (mine didn't register any LED's at first either) don't leave it unattended though, just in case.

If battery B had vented you would know about it and it wouldn't have come through the drip tip because the bottom of the AeroTank is sealed, it would have spewed horrible gas from the vent hole on the mech mod (does it have a vent hole?)

Does Battery B look damaged in any way? bulging, splits or holes etc.

Was probably just the coil/wick burning because of the short.

See how you get on with just leaving Battery A in the charger for a while.

The loose, wobbly center pin has probably caused this but without having the mod in my hands it's hard to know exactly what's going on.

[Greg]

One other thing to check, looking at the piece in your fingers in the first photo the top of the pin has a head like a nail, then looking at Adams photo of the aerotank base the central positive pin is recessed, perhaps as you screw on the atty the "nail" head is connecting to both the atty recessed positive pin and the outer negative pin and shorting out. Do you have any other attys to try we're the centre positive pin on the atty is proud of the negative outer part of the atty 510 connector ?

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i'm totally confused lol

[Adam78]

It's a shame this has happened was such a kind gesture Jane.

[Adam78]

Feb 11, 2014 19:29:23 GMT Greg said:

One other thing to check, looking at the piece in your fingers in the first photo the top of the pin has a head like a nail, then looking at Adams photo of the aerotank base the central positive pin is recessed, perhaps as you screw on the atty the "nail" head is connecting to both the atty recessed positive pin and the outer negative pin and shorting out. Do you have any other attys to try we're the centre positive pin on the atty is proud of the negative outer part of the atty 510 connector ?

Good thinking Greg, purkle Is the firing pin of the mod quite large? similar in diameter to the outer part of the aerotanks 510 connector?

On a positive note UKECigCabin have got £10 off their sigelei mech mods at the moment (might be a discount code on the forum too somewhere)

www.ukecigcabin.com/product/sigelei-mod

I like the look of #10 looks like a Roller/Dingo.

[purkle]

Greg, no I've only got two atty's that fit a 510 connection, & both have very close +ve &-ve like the aerotank.. you could be right.. is it worth shaving down a bit off the sides of the screw-shape head to make it smaller & maybe get a better connection with the +ve pin?

Adam78, yep that didn't occur to me at all, it can't have vented cos nothing came out of the venting holes on the mod tubes, only out of the drip tip. So yep, must have been the coil/wick burning out. Battery B looks totally fine, I've left it in the charger along with A, still no lights but I'll test them in a bit to see the voltage. It sounds like it's quite possible that I've killed them with just a wee short, if they're not protected which they're not, and I wasn't using any sort of fuse device in the mod.

Well, I could always post it down to the Midlands haha lol, it's all good. Guess maybe if I get any life out of the batteries then I'll try supergluing the pin in place, & maybe shaving off a bit all round it. If not then I think I'll just have a play with my drill & some components, see if I can make something that doesn't short out on me!

[purkle]

@johanino, yep it's all good honey, I still really appreciate the mod and hey all this has definitely taught me some stuff Don't worry, I'm sure we'll get it sorted x

[purkle]

That's a good deal Adam78! No can do unfortunately. Well not without a bit of duckin&divin, which I'm doing too much of already! haha! Methinks a bit of fun playing with soldering & drilling sounds more exciting anyway though.. but ayee, no.10, lush! and no.1!

The centre pin does look like it should be held in place fine when there's a battery in place.. it also looks like a very close fit to the +ve pin, as in it's really hard to tell whether it's encroaching onto the -ve bit or not..

[Greg]

Feb 11, 2014 19:49:53 GMT purkle said:

Greg, no I've only got two atty's that fit a 510 connection, & both have very close +ve &-ve like the aerotank.. you could be right.. is it worth shaving down a bit off the sides of the screw-shape head to make it smaller & maybe get a better connection with the +ve pin?
 

I wouldn't shave the pin just yet, as Adam suggested compare the size of the nail head to the base of aerotank, is the nail bigger, can you touch the nail head on the atty centre pin without it touching the outer of the 510. It doesn't matter that the there is only a very small gap between pos and neg, the issue may be that the nail has too big a diameter to connect to the positive pin without touching the negative as well due to the positive pin being recessed. What's your other 510 atty ?

[300]

Hi Purkle

Just done a quick search for your Mod, apologies in advance if it's an original but it looks like a clone so also searched on Fasttech, there's a discussion about it here.... www.fasttech.com/forums/1425200/t/1019331/floating-510-pin see post #8

If it is the one from Fasttech they seem to suggest the pin in your top cap should be spring loaded & shouldn't just fall out, if your spring is missing from the firing pin it may not be central which could cause a short.

A couple of small O-rings on your firing pin may be a solution, similar to the EA Mod's sliding pin but have no idea what size you would need.

Of course, if it's not the same Mod then all of the above is gibberish, good luck.

[purkle]

Och well I filed it a bit around the edges, it's not hugely smaller than it was.. yeah I mean you can touch it to the +ve pin only, but it's so close to the -ve as well that's it's hard to tell.. I'll see in a min if I can get another picture to post (don't think my internet connection loves it)

My other is the Davide King, very similar ending although possibly a slightly bigger gap between +&-..

[purkle]

Both batteries have been in charging for at least a couple of hours now (no sign of life), tested both of them again using the beep setting & also the 20V setting, both read zilch. peanuts. ummmm, oh dear!

[purkle]

Hiya 300, yep that's the exact one. I had read that conversation on Fasttech before but didn't really have a clue what they were on about!! Makes a wee bit more sense now; the pin does have a spring, in between the pin head and the insulating black ring. So if you hold it by the black ring you can push the pin up & down, but that doesn't stop the whole pin part (black ring included) falling out. However it is firmly held in horizontally, it can't move that way, it's just if there's no battery in it can fall down into the tube. When a battery is in & it's all set up, there's nowhere the pin can go really. It seems like it probably is connecting with just the +ve atty pin, so still I don't have a clue..

This is the mystery of the month, this is!! Mega thanks to everyone

PS: the spring loaded pin doesn't seem to have much of a function being springy...

PS 2: there's no spring in anywhere with the battery, is that an issue?

[Adam78]

Feb 11, 2014 20:10:11 GMT purkle said:

Both batteries have been in charging for at least a couple of hours now (no sign of life), tested both of them again using the beep setting & also the 20V setting, both read zilch. peanuts. ummmm, oh dear!

gutted..sorry to hear that purkle. Maybe Torchy will replace them, worth a shot.

Edit: quoted wrong post