trouble with strengths for homemade - suggestions please

[clivealive1]

I am really struggling on what strengths to use to make my juices - help required:

I made FW Guumi bear @20% stepped for 4 weeks and cant tast hardly anything. gonna try adjusting what i have left to 30%
i made PA - cinnamon danish (20%) stepped for 4 weeks and cant taste hardly anything. gonna try adjusting what i have left to 30%
I also made FW - butterscotch (20%) same thing upping to 30%
story goes on Capella blueberry 15% nothing , maybe i didnt put any in lol.
I even made afro dizziac at 15% and had to up to 20% but thats perfect now.
Tried 10 joose juice premix and couldn't taste much from them either apart from menthol.
oh chocolate fudge brownie at a high 25 % can taste but should have added sweetner. (generally used at 15%)
made homemade menthol 5g to 20ml and used at 10% ok but not strong enough.
been going by the general rule form here but clearly iam a weaky and need much stronger.
so might go 50% more flavour than suggested in general , see how i get on.

problem is iam new to mixing and not found anything I like or can taste apart from afro
I basically wasting most of what ive made or just vaping not to waste it all.

Does anyone else have simular issues?
any thoughts. (not vapours tongue ive had that)

just buying a large batch of cons but no idea what strenths to use. (flavours on other post - (idea's on list of concentrates to mix combinations) any strenth idea's on them welcome

[teethcv]

clivealive1 in my first batch i used 2.5mil of flavor (this was for a 10 mil bottle) and it seemed to do the trick for me just add more flavor to it its a thing where its to taste of what people like i can get the flavor right its just everything else i can not do with it lol

[jaysey]

Feb 13, 2014 13:12:51 GMT clivealive1 said:

I am really struggling on what strengths to use to make my juices - help required:

I made FW Guumi bear @20% stepped for 4 weeks and cant tast hardly anything. gonna try adjusting what i have left to 30%
i made PA - cinnamon danish (20%) stepped for 4 weeks and cant taste hardly anything. gonna try adjusting what i have left to 30%
I also made FW - butterscotch (20%) same thing upping to 30%
story goes on Capella blueberry 15% nothing , maybe i didnt put any in lol.
I even made afro dizziac at 15% and had to up to 20% but thats perfect now.
Tried 10 joose juice premix and couldn't taste much from them either apart from menthol.
oh chocolate fudge brownie at a high 25 % can taste but should have added sweetner. (generally used at 15%)
made homemade menthol 5g to 20ml and used at 10% ok but not strong enough.
been going by the general rule form here but clearly iam a weaky and need much stronger.
so might go 50% more flavour than suggested in general , see how i get on.

problem is iam new to mixing and not found anything I like or can taste apart from afro
I basically wasting most of what ive made or just vaping not to waste it all.

Does anyone else have simular issues?
any thoughts. (not vapours tongue ive had that)

just buying a large batch of cons but no idea what strenths to use. (flavours on other post - (idea's on list of concentrates to mix combinations) any strenth idea's on them welcome

I tend to do most fruits at 20% have you tried red Astaire ? For me 20% is perfect ( can't stand Afro ! Just shows how subjective taste is ! I found it dry ? T juice strawberri is nice ! Made all tjuice at 20% with exception of tobaccos as advised @ 15% ! That seemed high as most tabacois are under5% still steeping so no verdict yet ! I find flavour art not as strong as tjuice although their raspberry was tasty at 20% and weak @ 15
Made green steam and Forrest affair but not that nice really ! I tend to stick with red Astaire ! The tabacois for a friend
Gosh you must have spent a bomb on all those concentrates !
I spent a fortune on ready made when I started ! Glad I've found my all day vape ! And even more happy I make it as I can use up to 10ml a day in a iclear30s imagine paying 5.95 a day on red !!!

[clivealive1]

yes concentrate were a few bob but got 25% discount although the offer was over they were in my cart and therefore thought id take advantage and go mad.
love red astaire but not made homemade yet as looking to find a few others i like.
afro my fav but looking to like something else cant vape it all the time.
yes most people say 20% I try it and well nothing.

[bkkkpewsey]

clivealive1
What PG/VG ratio are you mixing at?
(and I assume you are using syringes to measure and not drops)

[clivealive1]

i am using 70/30 and ml measured with syringes yes

[Perpetua]

You can't hope to get it right immediately Clive, unless you're very lucky . . . what I or anyone else think is a strong flavour and requires x%, you may find the exact opposite and vice versa.

All any of us can do is give guidance on percentages, it's up to you and anyone else to then tweak those percentages to your personal and individual tastes.

And make sure you record those adjustments, so you know for next time.

It does get easier over time, once you've got a feel for your flavourings and what suits you, which there is no shortcut to, other than trial and error . . . . .

[clivealive1]

thanks mandy but its a bit frustrating , but as you say trial and error.
noticed some people do use into the 30% 's so there is hope yet lol.
maybe use the whole bottle

[Perpetua]

There's not an easy answer, as frustrating as it is Clive . . . you won't like this, but before plunging in and buying a shed load of more concentrates to stress about percentages. I'd perfect 3 or 4 mixes to your personal tastes with what you currently have. Then broaden your mixing horizons.

But you won't.

[boyofford]

thanks mandy but its a bit frustrating , but as you say trial and error.
noticed some people do use into the 30% 's so there is hope yet lol.
maybe use the whole bottle

I've used 30% on joosejuice stuff before for fruits..
Anything I don't like I put some menthol, lime, red astaire or forest affair in to make it more interesting.

[clivealive1]

no thats fair enough mandy , but done it now and didnt have much cons left , mixed it all.
hopefully something i have made will fit the bill.
i will get there and thanks for ur help.

[chykensa]

Can't believe that your 20% mixes have no flavour at all
Are you using a calculator to work out the recipe? I use at most 25% flavours (using a blend, not one single flavour), and even with my shot tastebuds, get something which is good and strong without being over the top.
What nic base are you using? Just wondering if you might have mis-calculated and have got a load of weaker mixes by accident . . .

[clivealive1]

I use the normal calc e juice me up,

butterscotch 20%
Flavour 20% 10 ML (70-30)
FLAVOUR WEST
Nicotine Strength PG 72mg
Target Nicotine Strength 12mg
Amount to Make10ml

RESULT
Nicotine 1.67 ml 16.7%

PG 70% 3.3ml 33.3 %

VG 30% 3ml 30%

flavour 2 ml 20%

gives me a tiny tiny tiny bit of taste, sometimes i put a juice in my iclear30 and a juice in my 30s and unless i wrote it down i cant tell the difference and defo couldnt tell u what it was.

[Deleted]

I'm just thinking have you not tried classikool flavourings? quite cheap and come in big bottles and very strong

Hope that helps...I can't help with percentages because like I am a 2% girl LOL

[andy01424]

sniff test the Flaovurings, as rule of thumb goes, if its strong use less if weak use more,found quiet a few juice flavours weak peach being one of them,hence this is were using Cake World flavours work out a lot cheaper to buy ,as mentioned dont despair ,at end of day what you can do is then experiment with mixing what you have with another strong flavour,with the buttsercotch try adding some vanilyin,ebay sell it in powdered form around £5 for 100g
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100g-Vanillin-powder-top-quality-food-grade-/140726706498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20c3f72142