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Post by womble on Oct 7, 2011 9:23:02 GMT
I used one for the first time yesterday. Filled it ok with no problems, no leaking nothing, seemed quite easy tbh. But tried vaping it last night and all I got was burnt atomiser taste Left it overnight and convinced myself this morning that the wick isn't up to scratch, as I can't see it in the tube (after looking at the other ones), although I'm a little unsure if it's just gone transparent as the other ones are dry. Something is there in the tube. Just tried vaping it now and it seems to be OK. So, beginners question........ should I have left it longer being using it? Will it now be OK? It seems ok, but I am probably still tasting the burnt taste from last night a bit. I'm unsure
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Post by Perpetua on Oct 7, 2011 11:11:29 GMT
I'm far from expert on the Smokeymizer's Womble . . . as I've just the one that Clutty kindly sent me to try, that's been perfectly all ok from the off, no burnt taste whatsoever.
Hopefully someone with more experience than me with them, will be able to advise you better.
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Post by rog on Oct 7, 2011 18:36:31 GMT
Well done on not having a leak, like me the first time!
I'm still in my first week of use (and the first one is still going strong) so am no great expert but I haven't had the issue you describe - could it just be a dodgy one?
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Post by VE Jason on Oct 7, 2011 18:40:52 GMT
The wick is virtually invisible once liquid is added Womble. You can get an off taste for a short while with these, but it should soon go and they seem to improve a lot after a few hours use. I've found they don't like higher voltages and prefer the 3.7V-4V range.
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Post by Perpetua on Oct 7, 2011 18:43:32 GMT
I've found they don't like higher voltages and prefer the 3.7V-4V range. * 4.3 on the Provari, I's tuff Jason *
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Post by VE Jason on Oct 7, 2011 18:46:56 GMT
Starts to struggle with the wicking for me at that Perpy, but a lot depends on the type of liquid I think. Also, you will be taking little lady draws and us butch men will be taking manly inhales
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Post by Perpetua on Oct 7, 2011 18:50:22 GMT
Of course, I forgot that part Jason.
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Post by womble on Oct 8, 2011 12:38:10 GMT
Well it settled down yesterday and seemed to be vaping fine, I didn't use it that much however, but enough to be getting into it. The battery ran out this morning and I put a new battery in it, straight away it went all burnt taste again ???
Tried it with the other battery when charged and it was still burnt taste.
I'm wondering if it doesn't like the high voltage of newly charged Riva 1100 batteries? I know Jason said somewhere that these batteries start at a higher voltage, then it decreases as they are used.
They can't all be like this surely?
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Post by VE Jason on Oct 8, 2011 12:42:48 GMT
I would try another Womble, it may just be an iffy wick.
There are 2 different Smokymizers - 2.4-2.7 and 2.8-3.1.
The lower ones will be more suited to 3.7V and the higher ones will be able to take the increased voltage. But, that said, they should both be fine on the Riva batteries.
Only other thing to look at is the thickness of the juice you are using. VG heavy juices don't wick nearly as well as PG heavy juices.
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Post by womble on Oct 8, 2011 12:54:30 GMT
I'm using Kentucky premium blend juice, which according to VR website has a VG content of between 30 and 40%.
You sent me the lower resistance ones as they are the ones indicated on your site for my riva batteries. Just had a look at the box and they are indeed 2.4 - 2.7.
I can't think what else it could be, it must be the voltage from the batteries, was vaping fine on the run down battery, new battery, burnt straight away.
I'll try another later. But not impressed that the first one doesn't work properly.
So far I've had the 2 atomisers that came with the kit that I just couldn't get to vape in any way, one Boge LR cartomiser that wouldn't draw (out of 15) and this smokeymiser.
I'm not blaming you Jason, but the manufacturers, they wouldn't get away with it in any other industry.
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Post by monster74 on Oct 8, 2011 13:20:56 GMT
Every atomizer I have had doesnt work to start, I've found if I stick a little pin into the 2 holes either side of the coil they then work fine.
Nats x
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Post by VE Jason on Oct 8, 2011 13:41:26 GMT
I understand where you are coming from Womble, but it's not about blame really. Your first port of call is your supplier and we sort out any problems you have by replacing any faulty items (that goes for Atomisers, Cartomisers, Smokymizers...whatever). We also try to find out if there could be any other reason why a product doesn't work as it's supposed to, such as user error, incompatibilty etc. After that, it's up to us to deal with the manufacturers with regard to product improvement. If we don't tell them about it, they don't think there is anything to improve. The manufacturers are getting better, but there's always going to be niggles along the way. The important part for the customer is that they have a local (UK) point of contact who reacts to their problems and rectifies them with the minimum of fuss. On the other side of the coin, we could have the reliabilty from the off, by manufacturing in the UK, but the end result would be the £80 UK Riva Kit and £10 atomisers. It's always going to be a discussion point
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Post by womble on Oct 8, 2011 13:53:48 GMT
Yeah you're right Unfortunately that supplier is you and I must admit, I do feel guilty about getting you to replace things, because it costs you money and it's not your fault. I do worry that I am making newbie mistakes here and am keeping all the bits in case I meet a vapour in real life, who will just wave a magic wand and sort them out. Let me try another smokeymizer first, then I'll email you directly with my hardware problems. Cheers
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Post by womble on Oct 8, 2011 13:56:12 GMT
Every atomizer I have had doesnt work to start, I've found if I stick a little pin into the 2 holes either side of the coil they then work fine. Nats x Thanks Nats I haven't looked at the atomizer's for a while tbh, not while the carto's have mostly been working fine. They would however be very useful for testing out new juices, I can see that. A few drops at a time.
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Post by VE Jason on Oct 8, 2011 14:08:09 GMT
I do feel guilty about getting you to replace things, because it costs you money and it's not your fault. Don't worry about that, the important thing is to get settled with something that you're comfortable with. From a suppliers point of view it's always difficult to give a diagnosis without being able to see or test the items, so does sometimes involve going through every scenario, which can be a bit tedious for the customer.
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