Flavour Art spearmint - what's wrong with it?

[Perpetua]

Mar 18, 2014 19:41:57 GMT toots said:

Mar 18, 2014 7:09:20 GMT Perpetua said:

Health Cabin's Spearmint still remains my favourite Toots . . . a true Spearmint flavour, quite intense as well and no aftertaste. I find all their plain minty concentrates good.

www.healthcabin.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1226_1227&products_id=7660

Though it's probably not practical for you to order from them.

What's the average shipping costs to the UK, just to give me a rough idea.

Been looking through the site and there's a few things I could do with from there, depends on shipping fees to justify a purchase or not. Would also then try out their spearmint.

Unfortunately ( and very sadly ) because it's liquid any flavours have to be shipped via EMS or DHL Toots, as China Post won't accept them. You can calculate shipping costs if you load your cart up, it'll give you the costs for each carrier depending on weight.

[richvapers]

Mar 18, 2014 0:35:40 GMT toots said:

Hey richvapers let me know what that cream soda is like as well. I love the cream soda drink and just seen you've got one in that picture. Could do with trying that one out myself

Hi toots
will let you know over the weekend on the spearmint and the cream soda, both smell yum
Am hopeing these are gonna be good as i like the 28.5ml bottles and at £2.25 from Cupcake World? is a good price.
Here they are in their glory.

[Perpetua]

I do like CCW's bottles . . . nice and easy to get a fine syringe down.

[Brambles]

Got my Flavourarts order this morning.. Got usual freebie. Rose Flavour this time. Smells gorgeous so just need to try it now....if I can find a clean atomiser.

edit. Tastes nice, quite a delicate flavour and will need to find a recipe which uses Rose. Don't think it would satisfy me on its own and will be better maybe with vanilla or some other flavour to give it a floral tone.

[Deleted]

Mar 19, 2014 13:01:11 GMT Brambles said:

Got my Flavourarts order this morning.. Got usual freebie. Rose Flavour this time. Smells gorgeous so just need to try it now....if I can find a clean atomiser.

edit. Tastes nice, quite a delicate flavour and will need to find a recipe which uses Rose. Don't think it would satisfy me on its own and will be better maybe with vanilla or some other flavour to give it a floral tone.

Maybe mix with chocolate and make tukish delight?. I'm sure there's a recipe for it somewhere I have seen.

[Brambles]

@munkymunky , I have some chocolate flavouring somewhere so could give it a go.

[Perpetua]

Fab idea @munkymunky . . . there's a couple of recipes here Brambles:

28vapeslater-couk.webs.com/apps/blog/

www.thevapersden.com/index.php?topic=10.0

eliquid-recipes.co.uk/turkish-delight-ash-by-aae-c-forum/ejuice-recipe/957

[Brambles]

Perpetua, I shall go with the 3rd one, I can do Chocolate, Vanilla and Rose.
Thanks for this.

[toots]

I've been communicating backwards and forwards with a guy called John at FlavourArt about the problem with this spearmint flavour, and today he sent me the following information which I think is very helpful to us all in the mixology section, especially if anyone is getting perfumery tastes to their mixes, which I know I have heard a few people reporting on here, and I myself have experienced with some mixes:

The nasty aftertaste is because you mixed it at 20%. We recommend starting around 3%
and working up to around 10%, possibly slightly higher for intense flavour, but 20% is way too high.
Many flavours give off a flavour like perfume or aftershave when mixed at too high a percentage.
Spearmint and Peppermint are both thicker and ‘slimier’ than say Lemon, it’s the nature of the
base ingredients required to reproduce the flavour; they both take on a cloudy appearance and the
beige colour is the Nicotine oxidising, completely normal. Lots of flavours don’t have the colour you
might expect, the flavour is all that is replicated by the flavorist but you sometimes find that the
same ingredients required for the flavour also affect the colour. Other flavours have various effects
on colour, Aniseed goes very cloudy and milky when mixed, Vanilla is a very dark colour, they are all different.

I shall now do another mix of the Spearmint at a much lower percentage and see how it comes out this time

[erik514]

I have some fa spearmint mixed at 10% and it's really strong. Most of the FA concentrates I have tried seem to get stronger with steeping so don't worry if it tastes a bit bland at first. Leave it a few weeks and it will probably be much better

[toots]

Quick Update

I diluted mine down from 20% to 10% and that horrible aftertaste has disappeared - hooray, it worked. So the guy from FlavourArt was right when he said my percentage was way too high

I've also got a 5% mix steeping so will see what that's like after a while - whether it will be strong enough at that percentage.

[Brambles]

Be interesting toots to see how you find as I have found making too strong with spearmint, peppermint and similar 5% is more than enough, even at 2% I find ok for a long vaping session with the flavour.

[toots]

Mar 25, 2014 13:40:30 GMT Brambles said:

Be interesting toots to see how you find as I have found making too strong with spearmint, peppermint and similar 5% is more than enough, even at 2% I find ok for a long vaping session with the flavour.

Will try to remember to update on the 5% spearmint steeping. Actually would be a good thing if 5% and even 2% are strong enough percentages coz that would mean the 10ml bottle of concentrate would last for ages, making it exceptionally economical.

Wish I could use all the concentrates at a low percentage, but mainly I do use 20% as I normally can't taste anything lower than that