Proposed e-liquid ban in New York.

[djs]

Have a look at this text, copied directly from the bill in N.Y.

Some of this language and points which amount to unfounded scaremongering are ridiculous.

JUSTIFICATION:

E- cigarettes have been a point of controversy since their presence in the New York market. E-cigarettes are battery powered devices that allow an individual to inhale nicotine while emitting only vapor. The health effects associated with inhaling the vapor of e-cigarettes are unknown, however the liquid used to produce the vapor in some e-cigarettes has been found to be harmful and even deadly to individuals. The liquid in e-cigarettes has been called "electronic liquids" or "e-liquids." E-liquids are a form of liquid nicotine laced with other chemicals and often flavored. Many e-liquids are made on factory floors or in the back rooms of shops and, similar to e-cigarettes, are not regulated by the federal government.

E-liquids have been found to be harmful to humans if ingested or simply upon contact with an individual's skin. Between 2012 and 2013, calls to poison control centers involving e-liquids have increased by 300 percent, with 1,351 calls in 2013. According to the Syracuse Post Standard, as of March 2014, 651 calls have been made to poison control centers regarding e-liquids, with over half of these calls involving children under 6 years old. It has also been reported that a teaspoon of highly diluted e-liquids can seriously harm or kill a small child.

According to the New York Times, an individual died after injecting e-liquids, and another individual in Kentucky was admitted to the hospital with cardiac problems after her e-cigarette broke and the e-liquid was absorbed through her skin.

This bill bans the sale of e-liquids in New York State. E-liquids are more dangerous than tobacco because nicotine in liquid form can be absorbed more quickly even when diluted. Therefore, forms of liquid nicotine need to be reviewed and scrutinized more than other tobacco and nicotine products. This legislation brings an awareness of the extreme dangers of these products by banning them from store shelves with the goal of saving people's lives.

So, this is the basis of making the sale of e-liquid illegal.

1) The liquid has been found to be deadly.
2) A teaspoon of diluted e-liquid (so that's not even e-liquid) can kill a small child
3) Nicotine in liquid form can be absorbed more quickly even when diluted, making it more dangerous than tobacco
4) This ban will save people's lives.

Hard to know where to begin really.

[markm]

As the recent ban on use in public enclosed places is about to be thrown
Out by the courts I'm not surprised, will it succeed?
Only if NY vapers let it.
Will it be used by the media to sling some mud, you betcha.

[charon]

According to the New York Times, an individual died after injecting e-liquids, WTF where they thinking of?

[Deleted]

Because of a minority of eejits they ban it

I think they should also ban the following - alcohol; credit cards; exotic pets; the internet LOL

[Deleted]

Actually why don't they just say that NY is a premillenial dispensationalist state and imprison everyone who doesn't have that delusion rofl

[zeldamum]

They should also ban household bleach as well then, well over 200,000 cases of reported poisonings in under 5's between 1990-2006!

[vigowomble]

Apr 12, 2014 8:17:36 GMT charon said:

According to the New York Times, an individual died after injecting e-liquids, WTF where they thinking of?

If I remember correctly they were trying to commit suicide charon, and succeeded.  That NYT article has been pulled apart by several articles and blogs as it contained so many mistruths so for them to quote it in possible legislation beggars belief.

[djs]

I've been thinking about this....

We need to ban many, many things, right now.

Cars. check
Alcohol. check
Household chemicals. check
Tobacco. check
Pain killers. check

All these things can kill.

We know e-liquid is dangerous stuff.

[markm]

Apr 12, 2014 10:16:54 GMT djs said:

I've been thinking about this....

We need to ban many, many things, right now.

Cars. check
Alcohol. check
Household chemicals. check
Tobacco. check
Pain killers. check

All these things can kill.

We know e-liquid is dangerous stuff.

It might more sense just to ban people - they are always the common denominator in all serious accidents!

[djs]

I say just

BAN STAN.

[CaptainChaos]

Don't forget that playing Judas Priest vinyl records backwards, or any of Black Sabbath's early releases will automatically make you worship evil and cause the end of the world by evil means

[djs]

Apr 12, 2014 21:00:53 GMT CaptainChaos said:

Don't forget that playing Judas Priest vinyl records backwards, or any of Black Sabbath's early releases will automatically make you worship evil and cause the end of the world by evil means

OK.. I won't...

[Clivia]

most of all they should ban sugar - because that is the real killer

also who in his sane mind will feed a child a teaspoon of eliquid - mind you - it's for the Americans that we have those oh so sense full instruction like on a toaster :'don't use under water' - or once we had a car and it seriously said : before starting the engine search the surroundings for obstacles ' or the guy , who wanted to rob a bank and shot himself in the foot and sued the weapon company and and and ......

Einstein once said: 2 things are infinite - the Universe and human stupidity - I am not so sure about the Universe

edit : just wanted to say I have fantastic American friends - it's not the individual American

[djs]

Apr 12, 2014 21:38:13 GMT Clivia said:

edit : just wanted to say I have fantastic American friends - it's not the individual American

Absolutely... no argument.

[CaptainChaos]

Don't forget McDonalds for having the NERVE to serve you hot coffee!!!