a question about dosage

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Hello

I was wandering, i mix my liquid myself now. I buy pg based nicotine from a company called RTS vapes
And mix it with flavors. The I buy is 36 mg which I mix half and half with flavoring so the strength I end up vaping
Is, in theory 18 mg I think. Looking at the new EU legislation which limits liquids to 20mg I think I should be OK, or have I read it wrong, and would it be that once the nicotine is mixed half and half with pig base flavoring we would end up with something more like 10 mg overall. Please help

[Steve (VapeStorm)]

IF these regulations come in all youll be able to buy is premade liquids at up to 20mg in 10ml bottles. Someone may make an unflavoured for mkxers but it wouldnt be worth it imo. Best not tocpanic just yet. Wait untill we know more about how things are going to go then of needs be stock up on nic base

and you vape at 50% flavouring!? Thats high lol

[Postmodern Smoking]

Hi @alopezg1,
If you fill a bottle half up with 36mg/ml e-liquid and then fill the rest of the bottle with flavouring then you are correct that this will end up with 18mg/ml e-liquid. Although 50% flavouring is VERY high. (Usually extra PG and or VG are also added to dilute to the required strength, with flavour accounting for typically 10-20% of the mix).
Re. the new EU legislation, when it comes in, it is likely that you will no longer be able to buy 36mg/ml nicotine, as it is implied that this will be limited to 20mg/ml, and 10ml bottle size.

[Deleted]

Yes but if the 20 mg liquid is premade already mixed I would not need to dilute it further? Which means I could vape 20 mg nic liquid as a maximum, basically the same as my current dosage, thereabouts ?

[Deleted]

Just out of interest what strength do you guys Vale then? 18 mg is plenty for me . I have some 24 mg stuff but it makes me
Feel sick

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Him I wonder if pg based nicotine can be frozen

[Postmodern Smoking]

Apr 17, 2014 22:40:34 GMT @alopezg1 said:

Yes but if the 20 mg liquid is premade already mixed I would not need to dilute it further? Which means I could vape 20 mg nic liquid as a maximum, basically the same as my current dosage, thereabouts ?

If buying premade flavoured e-liquid then you should still be able to vape at upto 20mg/ml. But it would cause problems if you wanted to mix your own.

[Postmodern Smoking]

Apr 17, 2014 22:42:00 GMT @alopezg1 said:

Just out of interest what strength do you guys Vale then? 18 mg is plenty for me . I have some 24 mg stuff but it makes me
Feel sick

I generally vape 24mg/ml (have done from the start), sometimes use 18mg/ml. 18mg/ml is probably the most popular that people buy.

[Steve (VapeStorm)]

I started at 18mg 3 months ago and im now down to 10mg

And nic base can be frozen. Itll thickenup not go solid

[Postmodern Smoking]

Apr 17, 2014 22:52:33 GMT @alopezg1 said:

Him I wonder if pg based nicotine can be frozen

Yes, for long term storage people are storing their nicotine base in the freezer. (It actually doesn't freeze, just becomes more viscous).
It is thought that this will significantly prolong its shelf life.

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So there's no big deal then? If you guys already Vale around 20 mg it won't effect you all that much
What's all the fuss about then ?

[Deleted]

I don't understand the PA Nick if most people already vape around the 20 mg level anyway

[Deleted]

Problem sorry , not pa whatever that is. I have a really crappy tablet device

[Steve (VapeStorm)]

Its about being able to mix at the quantities and percentages we want mate, most shop bought juices are high pg, a problem for me and many others who have an intoleramce to pg. I mix my liquids at 70%vg using 72mg base

[Deleted]

Ah I see . I am lucky in that respect and seem fairly tolerant of pg . I am living in new Zealand at the moment , soon to return to the UK though. Over here they cannot sell nicotine, soi have to import from america . Its slightly annoying but usually arrives in a couple of weeks. Maybe his would be an option for the future
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