Whoopi Goldberg

[collie2011]

It's never been proven that it causes scizophrenia and there are also studies that show cannabis oil to be an effective treatment for cancer.

[tez]

They are just two of the side effects the list goes on paranoia etc etc most of the so called good things that cannabis is supposed to produce are written by pro cannabis users and are one sided .

[collie2011]

And most of the anti cannabis stuff is written by pharmaceutical companies who don't want people using cannabis, they want people using their latest drug that they can make a lot of money from.

Also, don't believe the war on drugs, the stuff that they tell you is illegal, they still give you in hospital, just under another name. I was given Diamorphine, that is just the medical name for heroin.

[tez]

I have lost many friends over the years to drugs/ motorcycles and am completely anti drug but if people want to wander round in a cannabis induced fuddle its up to them .I just dont like it portrayed as a miracle new cure all

[fiddles]

Apr 25, 2014 13:49:06 GMT tez said:

They are just two of the side effects the list goes on paranoia etc etc most of the so called good things that cannabis is supposed to produce are written by pro cannabis users and are one sided .

& Yet I take from you being a member here you used to smoke & if you believe the medical hype smoking kills half of all smokers

[collie2011]

It's fine to be anti drugs, i'm not exactly pro drugs, i'm pro choice and freedom. I don't believe that things need to be made illegal and I believe that by making them illegal they actually make them more attractive to people looking to rebel. Look at teens smoking cigarettes, do they do it because they like it? Or because they aren't supposed to do it and it is a way of rebelling, doing something naughty.

I'm a firm believer that laws are made so that the lawmakers can be made to look useful. Look at the time being wasted on E-cigs, they justify their own existence by wrapping us up in more and more cotton wool and red tape. They create problems where there aren't any so they can then legislate and fix the problem and they use the media to push forward their propaganda.

[tez]

Apr 25, 2014 14:38:11 GMT collie2011 said:

It's fine to be anti drugs, i'm not exactly pro drugs, i'm pro choice and freedom. I don't believe that things need to be made illegal and I believe that by making them illegal they actually make them more attractive to people looking to rebel. Look at teens smoking cigarettes, do they do it because they like it? Or because they aren't supposed to do it and it is a way of rebelling, doing something naughty.

I'm a firm believer that laws are made so that the lawmakers can be made to look useful. Look at the time being wasted on E-cigs, they justify their own existence by wrapping us up in more and more cotton wool and red tape. They create problems where there aren't any so they can then legislate and fix the problem and they use the media to push forward their propaganda.

Totally agree  with what you say .As towards wrapping us up in cotton wool and watching us with cctv all day its for ower own good lol they dont want the cattle spooked .

[halight]

I never even knew that they could be used for that sort of thing,
Well you learn somthing new every day.

I do think that it could be used against us.

[decoy]

not getting in to wrongs or rights but as far as gateway jings
its more who you hang with and what morals you have as to what to you end up hooked on
fags,beer or drugs

and as far as the cannabis oil and ecigs are concerned because it is sooooo much more effective at getting it in your system i would say the oil should be considered as class a

[stu1873]

Apr 25, 2014 13:34:07 GMT tez said:

It is still illegal in most states unless prescribed and finding a doctor to prescribe it for you is just a case of having the money . and to say cannabis isnt a gateway drug and is rubbish (just how do most drug addicts start straight into heroin )

Cannabis is not a gateway drug. Just because you have a puff of skunk or hash doesn't make you think "this is alright this stuff i think i will buy some heroin as thats supposed to be great and chase it or jack it up my arm"

Cannabis and THC has many health benefits and is a hell of alot more good for you than alcohol.

[tez]

People try cannabis then think well i am not killing grannies like people said i would what if i give (whatever a try ) people dont start mainlining heroin from day one .

[collie2011]

I think that is more about the misinformation and the blanket and hypocritical drugs policy of this country "All drugs are bad, except for tobacco and Alcohol that we get loads of money from. Kids are told, all drugs are bad, all of them are awful, then they try a spliff and think, hmm that wasn't as bad as they told me it was, I wonder what E is like.

I also think you have to have some serious issues going on to use IV drugs. It's this overindulgence thing too, most of us can go for a few drinks down the pub and not get ratted, some people's personalities aren't like that and they will regularly overindulge. I think it's the same for any drug. Many of the people I knocked about with in my late teens early twenties used various drugs, but they never got addicted, it was a recreational thing and most of them now have families, good jobs or businesses of their own and no longer touch drugs.