Micro coil ohms bouncing around?

[enjay]

Jul 3, 2014 15:56:21 GMT Dan said:

Jul 3, 2014 15:27:38 GMT enjay said:

0.34mm fits no bother loon with the standard screws, the clones on the other hand....................

i can't secure even 0.30 securely in any of my genuines. All 5 now use the capheads and I can use twisted 0.30 ney bother.. Doesn't help that the philips head makes tightening properly an a** ache!

loon

You got a V2 kfl+? That's the one I use and also use the 0.34mm exclusively, gives me the perfect ohms every time. The screws are great, really can't fault them.

Also fitted twisted on someone elses, 4 strands of 0.23mm twisted lol, got them trapped with the stock screws.

Loon

[decoy]

i can secure .5 in my clone nay bother


might have holes in the deck for to clamp said wire ;p

[Dan]

Jul 3, 2014 16:03:31 GMT enjay said:

Jul 3, 2014 15:56:21 GMT Dan said:

i can't secure even 0.30 securely in any of my genuines. All 5 now use the capheads and I can use twisted 0.30 ney bother.. Doesn't help that the philips head makes tightening properly an a** ache!

loon

You got a V2 kfl+? That's the one I use and also use the 0.34mm exclusively, gives me the perfect ohms every time. The screws are great, really can't fault them.

Also fitted twisted on someone elses, 4 strands of 0.23mm twisted lol, got them trapped with the stock screws.

Loon

Nope. 4 × 3.1es and 1 x kfl+v1

must just be me then lol

[enjay]

Jul 4, 2014 0:04:24 GMT Dan said:

Jul 3, 2014 16:03:31 GMT enjay said:

You got a V2 kfl+? That's the one I use and also use the 0.34mm exclusively, gives me the perfect ohms every time. The screws are great, really can't fault them.

Also fitted twisted on someone elses, 4 strands of 0.23mm twisted lol, got them trapped with the stock screws.

Loon

Nope. 4 × 3.1es and 1 x kfl+v1

must just be me then lol

Ha ha it could be, I think decoy uses some mad wire and makes them fit too lol

[Dan]

Jul 4, 2014 0:10:09 GMT enjay said:

Jul 4, 2014 0:04:24 GMT Dan said:

Nope. 4 × 3.1es and 1 x kfl+v1

must just be me then lol

Ha ha it could be, I think decoy uses some mad wire and makes them fit too lol

Using the side holes is cheating though

I don't really see the point in anything larger than 0.25 in the Kayfuns to be fair. Twisted thin wires will always give a better result. Both in ramp up time and ultimately, flavour.

One of my 3.1's is built with a 3.2ohm coil to suit custard. I've twisted one strand of 0.20 kanthal A1 and one strand of 0.3*0.1 kanthal ribbon together and wrapped 11 times around a 3mm drill bit.

I had a similar build in my red astaire 3.1 but with 11 wraps of 0.25 kanthal a1 (2.1ohms).

This is where it got interesting.. Heat up time of the 3ohm coil takes less than a second to heat up at 6 watts(4.38 volts) whereas the 2.1ohm coil took what seemed to be forever at 18 watts(6.51 volts). I have since swapped the 0.25 build out for a triple 0.15 twisted parallel coil.

I'm getting not only a much better flavour from the twisted coils, but I'm also getting a lot longer between battery charges. 

I also no longer have the annoying explosion of sitting juice that I used to get when using thicker wire..

Yes, twisted coils take a lot longer to build than normal builds do, but they open up the possibilities of what you can do ten fold!

[enjay]

You say twisted is better and heats up faster Dan but I'm not so dure, this thing took about a week to get fully hot!



I don't have holes in my kfl+ but use the 0.34mm all the time, traps no problem and heats super fast. I'm not a big fan of twisted myself, I find either regular micros or parallels best but yeh, stick with the 0.34mm on the kf to give me a 1 ohms coil, that's the sweet spot for me and my juice.

[Super-Shiny]

Microcoils are springy, maybe that's why they are bouncing around

[Dan]

Jul 4, 2014 17:44:21 GMT enjay said:

You say twisted is better and heats up faster Dan but I'm not so dure, this thing took about a week to get fully hot!



I don't have holes in my kfl+ but use the 0.34mm all the time, traps no problem and heats super fast. I'm not a big fan of twisted myself, I find either regular micros or parallels best but yeh, stick with the 0.34mm on the kf to give me a 1 ohms coil, that's the sweet spot for me and my juice.

I only twist 0.15 or 0.20 as anything thicker doesn't offer any benefits.. better with a parallel build..

triple 0.15, 3mm dia, 7 wrap parallel or dual, that will give 1ohm.

triple 0.15, 2mm dia, 11 wrap parallel or dual will also give 1 ohm.

gice it a go and let me know what you think...

[Super-Shiny]

0.25 Kanthal, fast at heating up, fast at cooling down....sorted

[enjay]

Jul 4, 2014 19:10:06 GMT Dan said:

Jul 4, 2014 17:44:21 GMT enjay said:

You say twisted is better and heats up faster Dan but I'm not so dure, this thing took about a week to get fully hot!



I don't have holes in my kfl+ but use the 0.34mm all the time, traps no problem and heats super fast. I'm not a big fan of twisted myself, I find either regular micros or parallels best but yeh, stick with the 0.34mm on the kf to give me a 1 ohms coil, that's the sweet spot for me and my juice.

I only twist 0.15 or 0.20 as anything thicker doesn't offer any benefits.. better with a parallel build..

triple 0.15, 3mm dia, 7 wrap parallel or dual, that will give 1ohm.

triple 0.15, 2mm dia, 11 wrap parallel or dual will also give 1 ohm.

gice it a go and let me know what you think...

0.34mm, 10 wraps round a 1.6mm needle which fits the kf aur hole perfect gives me 1ohm, heats up fast and cools down.


0.25 is for girls

[Dan]

Jul 4, 2014 19:11:24 GMT Super-Shiny said:

0.25 Kanthal, fast at heating up, fast at cooling down....sorted

0.25 is my favourite to use as a standard coil if I run out of the thinner wire. So much easier to work with than .30

I just find flavour to be better with the twisted coils.. only if it's not twisted too tightly though.. oh, and it has to be twisted with the drill in reverse

[Dan]

Jul 4, 2014 19:25:57 GMT enjay said:

Jul 4, 2014 19:10:06 GMT Dan said:

I only twist 0.15 or 0.20 as anything thicker doesn't offer any benefits.. better with a parallel build..

triple 0.15, 3mm dia, 7 wrap parallel or dual, that will give 1ohm.

triple 0.15, 2mm dia, 11 wrap parallel or dual will also give 1 ohm.

gice it a go and let me know what you think...

0.34mm, 10 wraps round a 1.6mm needle which fits the kf aur hole perfect gives me 1ohm, heats up fast and cools down.


0.25 is for girls

Chimney coils... pah!!

I like my cotton nest thankyou very much

Chimney coil is too hot for my liking..