MVP II broken and need an Alternative

[Montana]

Jul 8, 2014 10:20:03 GMT prr said:

Montana I've got a v1 and a v2, both sprung the difference is the atty connector on the v1 rotates but is fixed on the v2.

That's really interesting , I wonder why they decided to have the connector fixed for the V2 and when did they make the change.There doesn't seem to be much info out there.

Andy

[robby]

Jul 7, 2014 21:41:39 GMT Montana said:

Just been having a scout around and I 've seen some indications and posts the VTR V2 has a spring loaded centre pin, can someone with one confirm this for me please.

Many thanks.

Andy

I think you are right Andy, I have the V1 and both the mod 510 connector and the extension 510 connector are spring loaded and working very well

[snow]

Jul 8, 2014 9:45:05 GMT prr said:

Max atty size 19 km, pro tanks and aero tanks fit fine, centre pin on mine are sprung. I use the airflow controllers on both my vtr's, just screw them in and then attach your atty to that rather than taking the atty on and off continually thus preserving the threads.

Slightly confused - is that the MVP or VTR you are talking about? I didn't think the VTR would take a Protank 2? 

[robby]

Jul 8, 2014 10:28:13 GMT snow said:

Jul 8, 2014 9:45:05 GMT prr said:

Max atty size 19 km, pro tanks and aero tanks fit fine, centre pin on mine are sprung. I use the airflow controllers on both my vtr's, just screw them in and then attach your atty to that rather than taking the atty on and off continually thus preserving the threads.

Slightly confused - is that the MVP or VTR you are talking about? I didn't think the VTR would take a Protank 2? 

It certainly will with the 510 extender, not sure about without it.

[prr]

snow at the moment I have a pro tank 2 on one vtr and an aerotank on the other without the extender.

[Montana]

Jul 8, 2014 10:43:04 GMT prr said:

snow at the moment I have a pro tank 2 on one vtr and an aerotank on the other without the extender.

^^

Exactly what I've seen and read.

The UK ECig store also do ( I don't know if it's the Smoktech one or their own version ) a airflow controller so you don't get that mega tight draw that some VTR users have complained about and the link is HERE .

I must admit to leaning towards the VTR after I've had the MVP.

Andy

[jaysey]

Jul 8, 2014 10:25:06 GMT Montana said:

Jul 8, 2014 10:20:03 GMT prr said:

Montana I've got a v1 and a v2, both sprung the difference is the atty connector on the v1 rotates but is fixed on the v2.

That's really interesting , I wonder why they decided to have the connector fixed for the V2 and when did they make the change.There doesn't seem to be much info out there.

Andy

i have V1 and love the spinning wheel mean I can spin atty round to have the new airflow holes at the front , never had any problems but I read somewhere it changed due to inconsistent ohms readings ? Which it does do ! Can say 2.8 then settles to true 1.8 reading
Can't fault it really and had no trouble with threads

[jaysey]

Jul 8, 2014 10:34:05 GMT robby said:

Jul 8, 2014 10:28:13 GMT snow said:

Slightly confused - is that the MVP or VTR you are talking about? I didn't think the VTR would take a Protank 2? 

It certainly will with the 510 extender, not sure about without it.

protanks and aerotanks fit fine without the fugly extender

[snow]

Thanks for that prr robby Montana jaysey good to know for the future - still leaning towards the MVP though purely down to the size & weight of them.

[jaysey]

Jul 8, 2014 11:50:25 GMT snow said:

Thanks for that prr robby Montana jaysey good to know for the future - still leaning towards the MVP though purely down to the size & weight of them.

never had a MVP so can't compare , never fancied one tbh , more suited to smaller atties I think , look a bit top heavy with protanks iclear 30 s aerotanks etc ! A mini protank or similar wouldn't last me till after my first coffee

[Montana]

Jul 8, 2014 11:50:25 GMT snow said:

Thanks for that prr robby Montana jaysey good to know for the future - still leaning towards the MVP though purely down to the size & weight of them.

I think you maybe right snow , the VTR IS heavier AND slightly bigger ( only by a few mm's ) , but when you use a Protank or Iclear 30 because of the design of the VTR you will only be adding the height of the drip tip and not the whole tank and if you decide to use one a air flow controller.

With a Protank II the overall height of the device is 179mm , whereas a VTR with the same tank , in the region of 120mm depeding on what drip tip you use.

Also , and I can't remember if you use Evod's ( or something similar ) you can get a 510 to ego adapter ( and this also has a 510 connection ) , instead of using the really long one that Innokin supply.Again the drip tip will be the only thing showing.To me, and that's just me , I like the more compact design of the VTR ( having used the MVP II ) and the more compact design and the weight of the device makes it less likely to knock over , and also makes it a lot less top heavy.The MVP II is a little top heavy with a air flow controller and a full Protank II on it , it only takes a slight nudge to knock it over and with the slightly bigger footprint and compact design and weight it's going to take more to knock over.Also when you have a battery and charger with a VTR , if you wanted to in the future you could go for something like the Provari ( or similar device ) or ( if they still use a 18650 type of battery and I can't see why they would change ) the new Provape device when it's announced and is available.

Having said all this I still want to check all of this out myself , I think I maybe taking a trip to HERE on Thursday to see.

Andy

[Montana]

Well they say it takes a real man to admit when you're wrong, so that's what I'm going to do , BUT there is a sting in the tail , not for me though.

I went to take back my MVP II today, and was greeted by a very nervous owner , I've never seen a shop owner that was that nervous.Anyway it does turn out that I've made a mistake when making my own microcoils.When I made my coils and bent them over the bottom of the coil and the grommet, I pulled the legs to hard and they were slipping back slightly, just enough to sometimes give a short and sometimes not, depending how you moved the atty.

What I was NOT expecting was the insults on the tanks and especially the Protank 2 air flow controller that I got.What he said was that all the gear that I had got was fake and just cheap knock offs and he had NEVER heard of a airflow controller for a Protank 2, he said the chimneys were the wrong length and diameter.

All I can say is, what a way to treat a customer, even if I was wrong, he was expensive and he isn't always open and I'm not always in distance from him to get parts from him, plus he didn't stock anything more than EVOD's anyway.

He can safely say that me and anyone I talk to will NEVER go into his store for E-Cig supplies.All the other tanks etc that I've got came in genuine Kanger etc boxes with all the correct info.How dare he accuse me of inferior purchases.

The thing that got me the most, and I couldn't help but laugh ( I know I shouldn't of have , but wait until I tell you what he said ) , I mentioned earlier that he hadn't heard of a airflow controller for a Protank 2 , I said to him well it is a genuine Kanger product that I got in a Kanger box , his reply was "I've been doing this for 3 years and I know the products" , and that's the point I laughed.

Anyway I'm over it now , all I can say is good luck with your second venture as others have more choice , better products at better prices , even 90% of other B & M stores are better.

All in all I lesson learned for me.

Andy

[charon]

Montana just a word of caution........you mentioned The UK ECig store Are you aware that they had their vendor status withdrawn on this forum for very poor custom service?

Just be carefull of who your dealing with, you have found out the hard way that not all vendors are equal!!

[Montana]

Jul 9, 2014 20:59:12 GMT charon said:

Montana just a word of caution........you mentioned The UK ECig store Are you aware that they had their vendor status withdrawn on this forum for very poor custom service?

Just be carefull of who your dealing with, you have found out the hard way that not all vendors are equal!!

I haven't dealt with them at all , by the looks of it I made a lucky escape , but why did they have their Vendor status removed , I can see you said poor customer service, but what had they done ??

Interested in finding out why , as that would have been the place I would have gone to look at the new Provape device whenever that comes out , as far as I'm aware ( or at least I think so ) their going to be an in store item to start with, but I've already been massively wrong once today.

Andy