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Post by Chrissie on Sept 7, 2014 21:43:55 GMT
I bet he will claim his twitter account was hacked & I also, very sadly, guess he will be believed However, the fact that he lost it to a certain degree in the radio shows & then his tweets slowly (to begin with) declined into abuse & utter nonsense, should be proof enough that it was John Ashton tweeting & not a hacker. He should be instantly dismissed from his post!
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Post by thatguy on Sept 7, 2014 21:53:49 GMT
I can just imagine him wearing underpants on his head with a pencil up each nostril saying "wibble"
The worst part is he claimed vapers were in the pocket of big tobacco!!!
The poor fellow will be claiming that the evil penguins under his bed are trying to eat him. Time to get the room with the bouncy walls ready I fear.
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Post by Chrissie on Sept 7, 2014 21:59:20 GMT
He couldn't be more wrong, could he thatguy. Just shows how little research he has done on e-cigs & vapers Mind you from everything I've read & heard from him, I wonder if he is in the pockets of big pharm.
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Post by MarkS on Sept 7, 2014 22:38:45 GMT
He couldn't be more wrong, could he thatguy. Just shows how little research he has done on e-cigs & vapers Mind you from everything I've read & heard from him, I wonder if he is in the pockets of big pharm. He knows full well that vapers are not in the pocket of big tobacco, but its a tried and tested argument that's been used long before vaping. The one thing ecigs are doing to a level that's never been seen before is expose many people in Public Health are willing to lie and manipulate for their beliefs. Beliefs that trump facts and science. They play dirty and will sink to any level to get their way. Makes you wonder how else we have been blatantly lied to and manipulated.
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Post by Chrissie on Sept 7, 2014 22:41:09 GMT
Exactly what I've been thinking, MarkS
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Post by Cousin Itt on Sept 7, 2014 22:44:26 GMT
Exactly what I've been thinking, MarkSAny one remember the John Carpenter film "they live" ?
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Post by VapingBad on Sept 7, 2014 22:45:14 GMT
When will these people realise that vapers & smokers are the real victims of the tobacco industry and not the bystanders, we sucked in that extra virgin toxic gas for years and most of the smokers are going to continue after your scaremongering. Some don't seem to care at all about our and the smokers that could switch to vaping's health as long as they don't have to see vapour or steam . There are real human's lives at stake here, and not just a few, remember the Hippocratic oath?
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Post by ronaldo on Sept 7, 2014 22:46:33 GMT
well they have been at it for years just think of milk one week it is good for you good for your bones helps growth the next week it is bad for you contains to much fat blocks your arteries puts to much weight on you then its back to being good for you and the yoyo effect is there
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Post by thatguy on Sept 7, 2014 22:51:23 GMT
Guess this guy is not a doctor or scientist, but a politician or lawyer at heart. Nothing else could explain the propensity towards fabrication. Lets just agree he is a top class purveyor of bovine faeces.
And as this cabbage really has taken a hypocritic oath, not Hippocratic.
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Post by chykensa on Sept 7, 2014 22:53:18 GMT
I am so saddened by the view which the Prof. subscribes to that all vapers are in the pockets of big T. When will twats like him realise that we are a large and growing body of people who have seen the light and are forsaking tobacco for a safer and healthier (sic.) way of getting our nicotine. I actually feel very sorry for him - his status has been irrevocably ruined by this puerile and malicious Twitter melt-down; I wouldn't like to be his agent in the morning.
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Post by VapingBad on Sept 7, 2014 22:53:35 GMT
Exactly what I've been thinking, MarkSYes, spin doctors, it's the way of the media obsessed modern world, but maybe it's because they have little or no science to back them selves up or maybe they are just f***wits they are doing a p1ss poor job at it.
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Post by markm on Sept 7, 2014 22:59:50 GMT
The framework convention for tobacco control is the WHO legal mandate To tell lies about tobacco smoking, this why it is so dangerous. If ecigs get included as tobacco products at cop6, these ####s get free reign to tell Lies about ecigs...........they live in a world where opinions are encouraged Providing they sport the right agenda, science became irrelevant decades ago.
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Post by Montana on Sept 8, 2014 7:25:58 GMT
I've just listened to the Radio 2 interview ( and will be listening to the world service one very soon ) and Professor Ashton started the interview being antagonistic by calling SIR Clive Bates , Mr Bates, whereas SIR Clive Bates called him professor. I seems as though professor Ashton hasn't been any kind of scientist for some time, as he seems to have learnt the way of just talking over people , even the host for quite some time , it comes to something when Jeremy Vine has to shout to get him to stop talking and let Sir Clive Bates actually speak. Advertising to children ? Where has this been , I'm sure it would have been plastered everywhere if it had REALLY happened , no proof.Leading to blindness , he totally lost that argument , as Sir Clive Bates's reply was , why haven't we seen a high percentage of smokers going blind.
Then just to cap it off after those two had finished , Jeremy Vine spoke to a 82 year old woman and even she said that E-Cigs aren't sold to children as there are signs saying "Over 18's Only" on shops , so that's wrong.
The people I feel sorry for are, the people he works with, the people that work for him and his family.IF he had proof in what he was saying and he would need some kind study at the very least.
Now off to listen the World service interview.
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Post by beetle on Sept 8, 2014 8:55:01 GMT
It does illustrate quite well that intelligence and education are often mutually exclusive.
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Post by MarkS on Sept 8, 2014 16:01:05 GMT
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