Poor things...

[beetle]

This is the lead-in to a story in today's Times article. It's behind a paywall so I can't view the whole text but it did give me a good chuckle.

Public health chiefs have accused e-cigarette users of a campaign of online abuse, saying that junior scientists are being scared away from research by explicit attacks from “vapers” on Twitter.

Awww diddums. Poor wittle scientists, such delicate souls.


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[Montana]

Sept 9, 2014 5:02:59 GMT beetle said:

This is the lead-in to a story in today's Times article. It's behind a paywall so I can't view the whole text but it did give me a good chuckle.

Public health chiefs have accused e-cigarette users of a campaign of online abuse, saying that junior scientists are being scared away from research by explicit attacks from “vapers” on Twitter.

Awww diddums. Poor wittle scientists, such delicate souls.


Link for reference: link

So , this total and utter bully and coward decides to go to the papers now , because he decided to leave Twitter alone because HE spat his dummy out , after losing two conversations on the BBC in three days.Now he is trying to go the back handed route and say younger scientists are getting put off doing research.I very much doubt that , if I was a young scientist I would jump at the chance to be in the middle of all this.It doesn't matter which side is right or wrong, they will still get the credit for letting the world know the truth.Even if it doesn't give you guaranteed work and wealth at least you would have either warned the world about the dangers OR this is a groundbreaking product and the best thing since penicillin.

There are a couple of reasons why I don't believe this , firstly :- younger people have a lot less to lose and are a lot thicker skinned than people like Professor John Ashton ( yes, that name again ) and after other social media rants, shouldn't have even been in the position he was in on saturday to make those remarks.
Secondly :- Professor John Ashton hasn't mentioned this before , so where has he got all this information about young scientists in just 2 days and one of those days was on the weekend, I bet if you read the rest of the article ( unfortunately I can't ) you will see NO proof at all of this, just like every other statement he seems to have made regarding E-Cigs.

The thing that annoyed me most was about US as vapers supposed to be targeting health officials , I'm every so sorry , what was that ??   Isn't it the other way round ?  Isn't it the likes of you and other large supposed health organisations that decided to pick on us first with your lack of knowledge on the subject, totally ignoring scientific FACTS that already exist and then give the worldwide public scare "STORIES" of things that are either not true or irrelevant , sounds like a true work of fiction.Perhaps these people would be better being novelists.Then after doing NOTHING as far as research goes, releasing statements , which governments listen to , which in effect could KILL more people , not save lives.Sorry , but that's what I thought health officials were for , not for running competitions on how many brown envelopes they can get in their back pockets.



Andy



 

[Ripshod]

Do we have to get the 'Digital Pack' or register to read the full article? I thought news was free.

Or would someone coffee/pasta it here plz?

But yeah, insanity rules again!!

[decoy]

as more peps start vapeing more will become known about it simples oh and on a side note that has nothing to do with it the goverment will lose more tax money,s
as for this prof wot not all he has to do is show some facts to back up his clames and as a prof he should be able to walk circles round us numpty vapers in an on line debate spesh as he should know more being a prof and all dat

oh last side note heroin when pharmaceutical clean do not harm the body in any way but you would think we were trying to get that legalized the way some peps react to us vapers
so much for a free country

[Perpetua]

Sept 9, 2014 6:21:19 GMT decoy said:

so much for a free country

There's no such thing . . . we're only allowed the ' freedom ' that those in power decide is wise to permit us.

I get pig sick of these bods dictating to me, what I can and can't do with my life, all the time pretending it's in my best interests.

I can make my own decisions thank you. 

[decoy]

Sept 9, 2014 6:32:05 GMT Perpetua said:

Sept 9, 2014 6:21:19 GMT decoy said:

so much for a free country

There's no such thing . . . we're only allowed the ' freedom ' that those in power decide is wise to permit us.

I get pig sick of these bods dictating to me, what I can and can't do with my life, all the time pretending it's in my best interests.

I can make my own decisions thank you. 

i will not bite
i will not bite 
oh sod it
these bods had the awesome idea of slowing traffic down and reduceing car parking in town,s and city centers to keep pedestrians safe and encourage peps to use public transport (oww the train fairs apparently went up 117% yesterday)
now what has happened local shops are shutting down causeing peps to travel father for work and food,air quality has dropped and supermarkets have taken over


but its ok they know what they are doing 

[beetle]

Sorry , but that's what I thought health officials were for , not for running competitions on how many brown envelopes they can get in their back pockets.

Andy

That's precisely it really. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so when there is a pot of free money available and headline news, these quango's/charities will be concocting all manner of nonsense to get a piece of it. The sense of entitlement and desire to nanny is directly proportional to the amount of perceived power granted.

[Montana]

Sept 9, 2014 6:43:45 GMT decoy said:

Sept 9, 2014 6:32:05 GMT Perpetua said:

There's no such thing . . . we're only allowed the ' freedom ' that those in power decide is wise to permit us.

I get pig sick of these bods dictating to me, what I can and can't do with my life, all the time pretending it's in my best interests.

I can make my own decisions thank you. 

i will not bite
i will not bite 
oh sod it
these bods had the awesome idea of slowing traffic down and reduceing car parking in town,s and city centers to keep pedestrians safe and encourage peps to use public transport (oww the train fairs apparently went up 117% yesterday)
now what has happened local shops are shutting down causeing peps to travel father for work and food,air quality has dropped and supermarkets have taken over


but its ok they know what they are doing 

What annoys me with all the BS about car parking in towns and cities , is that is HASN'T reduced the amount of vehicles that NEED to go into these very same places , beacuse either public transport doesn't work in their favour OR they need a vehicle to bring their tools of the trade with them.How about the vehicles that DON'T need to go into cities , have them charged a rate which means public transport is the option to go , public transport would in turn get better and more frequent and a better time spread and then the prices would go down too.As a result the vehicles that NEED to go in for deliveries and work vans etc would have plenty of space to get in and out, and in a lot quicker time to.
Slowing down traffic and having traffic lights every 100 yards is insane , especially at a time where we are all supposed to be SAVING energy not just burning it sitting in one spot waiting for the lights to change and then only 4 cars getting across.I'm very surprised this hasn't been highlighted as a huge GREEN issue with someone , as I've been saying this about the massive introduction of traffic lights for years.


Andy

[beetle]

i will not bite
i will not bite
oh sod it

brilliant.

[decoy]

Sept 9, 2014 7:07:12 GMT Montana said:

Sept 9, 2014 6:43:45 GMT decoy said:

i will not bite
i will not bite 
oh sod it
these bods had the awesome idea of slowing traffic down and reduceing car parking in town,s and city centers to keep pedestrians safe and encourage peps to use public transport (oww the train fairs apparently went up 117% yesterday)
now what has happened local shops are shutting down causeing peps to travel father for work and food,air quality has dropped and supermarkets have taken over


but its ok they know what they are doing 

What annoys me with all the BS about car parking in towns and cities , is that is HASN'T reduced the amount of vehicles that NEED to go into these very same places , beacuse either public transport doesn't work in their favour OR they need a vehicle to bring their tools of the trade with them.How about the vehicles that DON'T need to go into cities , have them charged a rate which means public transport is the option to go , public transport would in turn get better and more frequent and a better time spread and then the prices would go down too.As a result the vehicles that NEED to go in for deliveries and work vans etc would have plenty of space to get in and out, and in a lot quicker time to.
Slowing down traffic and having traffic lights every 100 yards is insane , especially at a time where we are all supposed to be SAVING energy not just burning it sitting in one spot waiting for the lights to change and then only 4 cars getting across.I'm very surprised this hasn't been highlighted as a huge GREEN issue with someone , as I've been saying this about the massive introduction of traffic lights for years.


Andy

well with or police force doing such a good job and the government building council estates that were more like prison camps near schools some perants for some reason will not let there kids walk to school or use public transport which means that at 9 and 3.30 you have smegloads of cars near the schools,do the schools make any provitions for said cars(sutable waiting aria)nope
public transport is not much cop and over priced i can get my family to burnley which is 7 miles away cheaper in a taxi than on a bus but i have a car to get to work so i can get there for less still,i visit Portsmouth twice or more a year £90 in petrol(used to be £60)and a 4 and half hour drive
train to pompy is £114 return each so x3 but its to london then change to get to pompy and around 8 hours
bus dont care its a 12 hour trip ON A BUS (£45 by the way)
arr the plane hummm 45min drive to airport opps nope gota use a taxi so £30 then the plane £90 x3 then taxi to pompy form southampton £30 so all in about a 4/5 hour trip
and dont forget i then have no transport in pompy and have to use a public transport sytem I DONT KNOW(by the way had no probs in america useing theres,cant think why lmao)
im gona be buried in my car

oops sorry op back on topic i never pic fault with anyone and what they did to that poor poor prof is just horrible 

[charliehorse]

Sept 9, 2014 7:07:12 GMT Montana said:

Slowing down traffic and having traffic lights every 100 yards is insane , especially at a time where we are all supposed to be SAVING energy not just burning it sitting in one spot waiting for the lights to change and then only 4 cars getting across.I'm very surprised this hasn't been highlighted as a huge GREEN issue with someone , as I've been saying this about the massive introduction of traffic lights for years.


Andy

If there's one thing guaranteed to enrage a motorist - it's traffic calming measures 

They have to deliberately muck up the sequencing of the traffic lights to cause congestion,

how else are they going to bring in congestion charges