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Post by spacey on Nov 10, 2014 21:21:26 GMT
So....am still mixing away happily and have 3 trillion 5ml samples at varying stages of readiness! It's taken me till now though to realise that Stevia (at least I think it's the Stevia) is possibly ruining the mixes I use it in. Basically, I'm not a fan of sucrolose (TPA sweetner) so have been using either Stevia or EM as a sweetner. I've made some mixes that I absolutely love the flavour of, but am getting a horrible coating of weird sweety yuckness in my mouth/throat when vaping them - even if I dilute them with extra vg. Anyway, I was sat there thinking about this over the weekend and started to join the dots. This only happens in mixes I've used Stevia in. In other mixes that I've used EM as a sweetner, I don't get this problem at all. Has anybody else found this? Maybe it's not the Stevia - if not then what could it be? As EM isn't suitable for every mix, I've read that Marshmallow concentrate is often used for added sweetness - anyone here use this? Any advice/thoughts are appreciated
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Post by rughead121 on Nov 10, 2014 21:29:00 GMT
I know I havn't been mixing for long but isnt Marshmallow mostly EM?
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Post by Perpetua on Nov 10, 2014 21:31:18 GMT
I'd say it's the Stevia Spacey . . . which is why I abandoned using it, the weird aftertaste I got. There's no reason why you couldn't use EM to sweeten in all your mixes if you don't like TPA's - what was it about that you didn't like? Or maybe TPA's Brown Sugar . . . though I find that's more of a ' flavour ' rather than an additive.
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Post by Greigster on Nov 10, 2014 21:35:07 GMT
I ruined about 200 ml. of VC when I used TPA brown sugar....didnt like it at all.
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Post by Perpetua on Nov 10, 2014 21:48:12 GMT
I ruined about 200 ml. of VC when I used TPA brown sugar....didnt like it at all. Must admit I've only used teeny tiny amounts of it in with some Graham Cracker for a biscuity experiment Greigster . . . don't think I'd chance a precious VC mix.
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Post by Greigster on Nov 10, 2014 22:09:43 GMT
I ruined about 200 ml. of VC when I used TPA brown sugar....didnt like it at all. Must admit I've only used teeny tiny amounts of it in with some Graham Cracker for a biscuity experiment Greigster . . . don't think I'd chance a precious VC mix. I used all TPA brown sugar @ 3% Perpetua just one of my senior moments. It is just about vapable but whilst I have better custards to vape, it will stay on the shelf.
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Post by Perpetua on Nov 11, 2014 6:52:33 GMT
Must admit I've only used teeny tiny amounts of it in with some Graham Cracker for a biscuity experiment Greigster . . . don't think I'd chance a precious VC mix. I used all TPA brown sugar @ 3% Perpetua just one of my senior moments. It is just about vapable but whilst I have better custards to vape, it will stay on the shelf. Oooops! I'm sure we've all done similar at sometime though Greigster.
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Post by smifee on Nov 11, 2014 8:28:11 GMT
I ruined about 200 ml. of VC when I used TPA brown sugar....didnt like it at all. Try making 10ml the same mix with no sweetener and add some of the yuk. Start low and work up. You may still be able to use it. I've been thinking of using honey concentrate instead of sweetener. Don't think I'll make 200mls though.
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Post by Greigster on Nov 11, 2014 8:56:46 GMT
I ruined about 200 ml. of VC when I used TPA brown sugar....didnt like it at all. Try making 10ml the same mix with no sweetener and add some of the yuk. Start low and work up. You may still be able to use it. I've been thinking of using honey concentrate instead of sweetener. Don't think I'll make 200mls though. I did mix a sample first and thought I liked it, so went on to make a larger batch. I have in the past, always used Perps VC and thought this would make a change, but I was wrong. I now make Custardy Love Child and this has become my new favourite.
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Post by Marcus on Nov 11, 2014 10:00:02 GMT
If you do a Google search for "Stevia" you will find a lot of people don't get on with it as a sweetener. I switched to using it briefly when trying to cut down on my refined sugar intake but the after taste from it was absolutely disgusting! It seems to linger in your mouth for a fair while after consumption.
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Post by spacey on Nov 11, 2014 22:40:41 GMT
Thanks everyone - it seems the stevia is definitely the problem then. Am trying to vape my way through a gorgeous vanilla/cream mix but the aftertaste and mouth coating of the stevia is making it hard going! rughead121 - ah, I didn't realise marshmallow was pretty much EM!! As for Brown Sugar - after reading Greigster 's experience I might just keep that one for certain creme brulee type recipes Perpetua - I just don't like artificial sucrolose type sweetners at all, taste wise. Am going to try re-making the mixes using EM and see what happens Marcus yep, that lingering aftertaste is horrible. Glad it's not just me!! Cheers all
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Post by Mev on Nov 12, 2014 2:36:08 GMT
I gave up trying to use sweeteners of any kind in my mixes because of the sickly after taste, tried them all stevia included. Ended up just sticking with heavy VG mixes which give it a slightly sweeter taste than PG.
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Post by Tom on Nov 12, 2014 10:09:25 GMT
I ruined about 200 ml. of VC when I used TPA brown sugar....didnt like it at all. note to self. dont do test batches of 200ml xD
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