newby looking at this 501

[daisydoo]

ok - i am very new to this idea...looking at one of these

www.gecigarette.co.uk/products/116-genesis-510-kit.aspx

hopefully u lovely people could advise me what else would i need to add to order..currently smoke rothmans royals 24 per day

please keep it simple as my brain is somewhat swimming in smoke lol :-[

[bel]

Hello Daisy and welcome

I think you'd be much better off with a Riva. im sure someone will be along soon and give you some more info

[daisydoo]

i want something smaller and less chunkier than the riva....

[jerryrm]

Simple it is Daisy. The 510 is a good e-cig, but you will have to recharge the batteries every hour or so. It's pretty much outdated technology, unless you are looking for a small e-cig. Many here, including myself will recommend an eGo/Riva as the battery will last a full day without needing recharging.

You wanted it simple, so I will say only a bit more. You will need more than one atomizer, no matter what you get, as they can have a short life span. Also, get an e-juice starter pack, to see what flavors you might like and I would recommend starting with 16-18 mg nicotine content and you can adjust your needs from there.

[bel]

Ok i understand that, i was the same, but the battery life isnt that good. And within a couple of weeks i went up to a Riva.

I havent used a Genisis so really can't comment on how good they are but i think Colliwobbles has, so hopefully he's on line.

[River]

Agree with jerry,also as you smoke 20 plus aday,the riva will give you that satisfying feeling the same as you would get after smoking ciggie

[Deleted]

Hi there Daisy This is the same product and same company i bout my first 510 kit from.
Firstly I smoked about 40/50 rollups per day and while this was a super substitute I quickly found the battery was only lasting about 1 hr poss less I have since gone for the ego/echo variety which has a battery that lasts a lot longer, also the cartridge quickly lost their flavour and despite topping them up with e liquid they only lasted 5/6 draws.
may I politely suggest a look at the suppliers section and ask them for their suggestions as you may find yourself wanting something more in such a short while i.e cartomizers e liwuid strengths tanks for easy filling etc.
my setup after one week on these 510s (that is the style of battery fitting by the way as a lot of e cigs are a 510 fitting makes thing interchangeable) 2 ego batteries various cartomizers (atomizer and cartridge in one) and various flavours of e juice at varying strengths

www.allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/index.cgi?
action=gotopost&board=suppliers&thread=2&post=2

For my personal view these are the ones i have tried and are very happy with their service and delivery times,
www.ecigsforyou.co.uk/
www.freedomvape.co.uk/
www.paradisevapeuk.com/
www.vapeescape.co.uk/
But there are many there and a heck of a lot of the suppliers are here on this site and will help you a lot more than me.
you will have a lot of enjoyment in vaping and so many flavours too
your journey is about to begin...... Welcome

[bel]

Thanks Colli i thought it was you that had one of them

[Perpetua]

It's tempting to go for a ciggy lookalike Daisy . . . infact many of us did when we first started vaping as that was all there was available and they worked, in as much as they steered us away from tobacco cigarettes.

But, there are so many better options available now, that will replicate the smoking sensation better for you and be more satisfying as result.

Hello & welcome btw.

[Deleted]

Also one more thing the batterries have just started to fail now after 3 weeks. not blaming the manufacturer as i pretty much chain vape and had to keep recharging them till i got my ego batts
Why not go for the riva/ego style and order a mini 510 battery like the one in the kit you saw to go out with most of the said sites stock them

[Deleted]

Hi bel yes ok for a bit but then you and your dearest showed me the light

[leftfield]

If you really, truly, absolutely want one that's cigarette sized then I'd advise you to get a Kr808d-1 model rather than the 510.

There's a simple reason for that and that is that the kr808d-1 models have a higher voltage than the 510 meaning they will give a better heat to the vapour and they are higher mAh rating which means they will go a little longer than the 510 models between charges. The Kr808D-1 is regulated to 3.6v meaning it will be 3.6v until a few puffs before it cuts out and needs charging again. The 510 is 3.2v, again regulated so it will be a steady 3.2v. 0.4v doesn't sound much difference but it can make all the difference!

Here's where to pick them up from:

www.ivapour-elixir.co.uk/creator-1.html?cat=121

or

www.jacvapour.com/

I own a pair of Kr808D-1's and a pair of 510s. The Kr808d-1's are superior to the 510 in every way IMHO.

You have the choice of automatic or manual. I'd say the manuals are better as you have a better control of vapour production because you can hold the button down for a second or two to warm the cartomiser (the heating element on the ecig) then take a drag.

I really do like the automatics though but if you get an automatic you need to be very careful not to get juice into the battery as it will kill it. That said, the newest Kr808D-1 models have a very robust automatic that's better than automatics before them.

Though, to be fair, the size of the 650 mah rivas or egos aren't actually that much bigger than either the 510 or Kr808D-1:



That is a volt ecig next to a 650mAh ego and as you can see the ego isn't much bigger at all. If you used the ego or riva with just a cartomiser and not with the tank that's on mine it would actually be the same length, if not a little shorter than the volt ecig I'm comparing it to.

For your reference, every 100 to 120mAh is roughly equal to one hour of light use of your ecig so you can base the mah rating of the ecigs you look at for their battery life off of that.

So in short, Kr808D-1 is better than a 510 for power and battery life and the ego or riva in 650mAh size are actually not as big as you might think so it's worth considering them at least.

[Chrissie]

Hello & welcome Daisy

Same as Leftfield, I was also thinking that if you really did want to try a cheap ciggie lookalike to get started, the KR808 would be better as they have longer battery life between charges than the standard 510. Good deal from safercigs on a KR808, use discount code "allaboute" for 10% off -

www.safercigs.co.uk/Intro_Vapour_PRO/p705283_4307948.aspx

[leftfield]

Jan 12, 2012 20:57:03 GMT Chrissie said:

Hello & welcome Daisy

Same as Leftfield, I was also thinking that if you really did want to try a cheap ciggie lookalike to get started, the KR808 would be better as they have longer battery life between charges than the standard 510. Good deal from safercigs on a KR808, use discount code "allaboute" for 10% off -

www.safercigs.co.uk/Intro_Vapour_PRO/p705283_4307948.aspx

You always know where to get ecigs cheaper >

Bookmarked

I'm really glad I have my Kr808D-1's because I'm just not so into waving the lavatube around all the time and if it's in my pocket I see people looking down there wondering if that's four packs of rolos in my pocket or I'm just that happy to see them

[Chrissie]

Sorry Leftie & ROFL