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Post by VapingBad on Dec 24, 2014 3:52:53 GMT
it may make sense for a few experienced extreme sub-ohmers, but I worry that this will be bought by less experienced vapers. It fires PWM (around 80 Hz) and at 10 W the output is 9.1 V at 38 A in pulses (coil popping high?) that only take up one 28th of the time, at 80 W it's still pulsing for only a quarter of the time. The high power end will just set light to or blow 99% of atties and I hope no one gets hurt. I feel that this can't be a good thing for vaping, but it may be a OK for boiling a small container of water very quickly. With the way the PWM is used it will be horrible at normal wattages (< 80 W), please don't be tempted to get one.
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Post by -V- on Dec 24, 2014 4:17:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2014 5:10:20 GMT
riptripper world LOL
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2014 5:35:14 GMT
it may make sense for a few experienced extreme sub-ohmers, but I worry that this will be bought by less experienced vapers. It fires PWM (around 80 Hz) and at 10 W the output is 9.1 V at 38 A in pulses (coil popping high?) that only take up one 28th of the time, at 80 W it's still pulsing for only a quarter of the time. The high power end will just set light to or blow 99% of atties and I hope no one gets hurt. I feel that this can't be a good thing for vaping, but it may be a OK for boiling a small container of water very quickly. With the way the PWM is used it will be horrible at normal wattages (< 80 W), please don't be tempted to get one. What's the 1% atty I want one, that will be about 240watts of dry hit protection for me....!
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Post by VapingBad on Dec 24, 2014 11:32:41 GMT
Even worse now that I see the FT spec as in uses more current than any 18650's that I'm aware of are rated for continuous discharge.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2014 12:10:59 GMT
In a word - don't buy it!!!!
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Post by whiteshep on Dec 24, 2014 12:46:40 GMT
This ridiculous wattage race the Chinese are creating is not going to end well for us they will be fine counting the cash but smy are one company that should be avoided they make shoddy gear with some of the worst power regulation which manages to get even worse with use. This sort of stupidity isn't needed for a good satisfying vape and offers nothing good for the average vaper it also offers nothing good for experts as the mod cannot be relied on to be accurate straight out of the box and degrades further with use as the internals are not very well protected from the heat this mod can generate at even mid range settings. In short don't touch with a barge pole and don't even contemplate buying unless your really into filling your dustbin.
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Post by decoy on Dec 24, 2014 14:49:27 GMT
just so you know some of these are using lipo race packs from rc cars the problem with that is that the standard plastic deans connector is rated at 30 amps(some of us used ceramic ones to get past this when using really hot motors but these guys dont) i see trouble ahead
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Post by Ripshod on Dec 24, 2014 19:56:22 GMT
OMG! Just give them a hand grenade - it'll be a little quicker.
I would recommend against buying this, no matter how much experience you have. Not only is it rated at 260Watts (38Amps) but it's also Chinese.
Formaldehyde anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2014 10:53:01 GMT
just so you know some of these are using lipo race packs from rc cars the problem with that is that the standard plastic deans connector is rated at 30 amps(some of us used ceramic ones to get past this when using really hot motors but these guys dont) i see trouble ahead I have welded a few Deans connectors together in my RC days and that hobby has shown me what batteries can do when they go wrong, this hobby is different though, I never use to put my RC cars up against my face....!
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Post by dalealan on Dec 26, 2014 11:13:46 GMT
just so you know some of these are using lipo race packs from rc cars the problem with that is that the standard plastic deans connector is rated at 30 amps(some of us used ceramic ones to get past this when using really hot motors but these guys dont) i see trouble ahead I have welded a few Deans connectors together in my RC days and that hobby has shown me what batteries can do when they go wrong, this hobby is different though, I never use to put my RC cars up against my face....! Why? It looks like fun hah
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Post by Toondog on Dec 26, 2014 11:26:26 GMT
It's a disaster waiting to happen. The first death is just around the corner, that kind of power could literally take someone's face off, and guess what, the daily mail headline won't be "inexperienced idiot in mine's bigger than yours race blows face off" it will be "e cigarette kills father of two" or something similar. This watts race is the worst thing that could happen to vaping. An almost sure fire way to get mods and tanks of all description banned. Then we'll all be picking up our prescription e lights from boots at £8:25 a shot, per week. Eying up the cheap VG and remembering the good old days! Chris.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2014 12:49:25 GMT
Is there actually any point or more importantly, any enjoyment from vaping at extreme wattage. The combination of that power, an inadequate battery and being available to anyone is surely gonna end in disaster. Prsonally I don't see the need for such power, especially when the battery clearly cannot handle it. I'm happy with 0.7 ohm 18w and some red Astaire. Maybe I'm a bit of a blouse, then again, maybe I value my fingers, lips teeth and nose too much. If anybody can convince me its safe and enjoyable vaping at these figures then I would be interested in hearing your opinions.
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Post by whiteshep on Dec 26, 2014 13:42:36 GMT
Vaping at 100w is not pleasant and certainly not something you'd do routinely so two and a half times that would be painful and something only an idiot would do. Most peoples happy zone is between 10-40w's with mainly cloud chasers going into higher watts Iknow a lot of mech users will say "iI vape at 60+ watts" but when you take voltage drop and battery losing charge into account they are below what they think sometimes by a high margin. I'd say 95% of vapers are doing it to no longer use tobacco and high watts are not needed for that I vape now at 25watts and that's perfect for me. I hate to say there should be limits on anything because I normally believe in freedom of choice but these silly high wattage mods are not needed and are not doing any real good.
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Post by xs2man on Dec 26, 2014 14:18:20 GMT
I don't know about that whiteshep. I regularly enjoy a vape at somewhere around 100w. Dripping on a 0.15 Ohm coil, properly built and wicked, can be epic. I don't necessarily do it for the cloud chasing either. Just for the hit and the intense flavour. In fact, it's all I was doing for a few weeks, before getting too lazy and just built my Kayfun to around 0.4 Ohm. To say it's not pleasant or something you would routinely do is false. Sure, perhaps for most this may be the case, and it obviously doesn't work for you. But you can't really make sweeping generalisations like that. All that being said, I wouldn't buy this device either. I only use Mechs, obviously, when I vape like this, and am pretty careful about it. So this sort of device holds little interest for me. I would like to try an SX350 mod at some point though, I think that could just about work well for me when I'm being to lazy to drip...
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