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Post by robby on Dec 30, 2014 13:21:37 GMT
so provape wont be able to update the p3 with temp control or whatever its called They might try, really looking forward to using a DNA40 with a dripper and squonker, should cut down maintenance with wicks etc quite a bit
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Post by Greg on Dec 30, 2014 13:36:17 GMT
so provape wont be able to update the p3 with temp control or whatever its called Surely not, I thought evolv had a patent on on VW too but that didn't stop others.
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Post by geordie_vaper on Dec 30, 2014 14:25:28 GMT
would be a bit crappy if they did try to do it
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Post by geordie_vaper on Dec 30, 2014 14:28:59 GMT
so provape wont be able to update the p3 with temp control or whatever its called They might try, really looking forward to using a DNA40 with a dripper and squonker, should cut down maintenance with wicks etc quite a bit vapourflask are making a squonker i posted it in genral discussions but dont think anyone cares same design as the flask but istead of two batteries just one and a bottle to give a good old squonking too
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 10:42:14 GMT
Evolv will have a patent on their name, nothing else. They have invented nothing, just used technology all ready around us and bought it to vaping. I now own 2 of their boards and am all for supporting them to move vaping forward or catch up depending on how you want to look at it..! but if they're claiming to have a patent on pre heating a coil to a set temperature it's is a fast, if they did invent it and had a patent on it my car wouldn't start this morning....!
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Post by kellywelly on Jan 2, 2015 6:43:09 GMT
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Post by markm on Jan 2, 2015 11:11:02 GMT
They could have a patent on their solution to temp control, but not the concept.
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 2, 2015 11:26:02 GMT
It would be how they did it, circuits & firmware.
Here is someone's Arduino temp control, cool, but gonna use a lot of battery when done on a general purpose processor board.
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Post by robby on Jan 2, 2015 11:27:02 GMT
That`s showing 50 watts all the way through, so not really relevant to the DNA40 clone ???
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 2, 2015 11:33:25 GMT
That`s showing 50 watts all the way through, so not really relevant to the DNA40 clone ??? It's not, around 1:30 it's at 60 W on a constantly changing wattage display, yea it's not a DNA copy no pre heat for one, just posted to show there is more than one way to skin a cat in regard to patents.
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Post by robby on Jan 2, 2015 11:47:52 GMT
May be my monitor, but it looks like 50W all the way through to me, all it seems to be showing is overall board temperature control which I wouldn`t have thought was patentable. They are just showing it works aren`t they?
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 2, 2015 11:58:38 GMT
IIRC they are monitoring current & voltage to measure resistance. So I would guess they are using a digital potentiometer on the Raptor to adjust the voltage controlled by the Arduino that does the maths and controls the display.
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Post by robby on Jan 2, 2015 12:01:10 GMT
I think we are talking about different vids mate, the linked one is the Kangxin one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 12:48:27 GMT
They could have a patent on their solution to temp control, but not the concept. Yes I suppose they could do. electronics Is way over my head but I reckon an engineer and a solicitor could get round the patent in about an hours meeting, half of that drinking coffee. Move a resistor here, turn that one 90degrees......Not that it matters the Chinese can't even be bothered removing evolv from the start up...!
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 2, 2015 13:02:08 GMT
I think we are talking about different vids mate, the linked one is the Kangxin one. We were, I couldn't view the Kangxin one
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