Nothing but problems

[doveman]

Jan 5, 2015 21:31:32 GMT Perpetua said:

You're most likely using coils that are past their best which won't be helping your vape doveman . . . whatever battery you use. Perhaps your friend is using fresher coils?

Nah, it's happening even with new heads.

They are . . . though I recoil mine after 4/5 days using these ready coils from FT:

www.fasttech.com/p/1591806

Which I find better than doing the washing thing.

Thanks for the tip, I might have to order some of those to use with my non-microcoil heads.

[doveman]

Jan 8, 2015 10:09:41 GMT Roscopecotrain said:

There is indeed mate. Thanks for the tag. One of the easiest heads to re wick in my opinion.

If you need any help doveman just give me a shout.

Thanks mate. I'm going to give it a go myself first but I'll give you a shout if I run into problems

[Perpetua]

Jan 8, 2015 10:53:54 GMT doveman said:

Jan 5, 2015 17:37:42 GMT DiscoDes said:

How often are you changing the coils in your tanks?

As Perpetua said you can try a Uni-Coil or the same sort of thing from Virtual Vape (a bit cheaper)

Burning is a sign of the coil not getting enough liquid fast enough it could be gunked up, or you could try altering the way you vape, long and slow is a good way to describe it rather than a short hard tug.

I probably change them about every two weeks but I get the burnt taste problem when turning up the battery even with brand new ones, so it's not due to me using them too long.

2 weeks is really too long doveman to go between changes for many coils and eliquids to get the nicest possible vape, especially if you like dessert/sweet vapes. Some of mine that aren't in exclusive use, I change them every 2/3 days. I'd have a go at recoiling with the FT ready coils, which are extremely reasonable and simple to use - so the temptation isn't to use them for too long.

If you're getting a burnt taste on new coils, then you're either not letting the coil become saturated with liquid before using it and it's not wicking well, or you're simply trying to push too much power through it whilst it's new, they can take a tank full of liquid to be run in.

What's wrong with the vape for you on a lower setting? Just because the extra power is there, you don't have to use it.

[doveman]

Jan 8, 2015 19:29:52 GMT Perpetua said:

2 weeks is really too long doveman to go between changes for many coils and eliquids to get the nicest possible vape, especially if you like dessert/sweet vapes. Some of mine that aren't in exclusive use, I change them every 2/3 days. I'd have a go at recoiling with the FT ready coils, which are extremely reasonable and simple to use - so the temptation isn't to use them for too long.

If you're getting a burnt taste on new coils, then you're either not letting the coil become saturated with liquid before using it and it's not wicking well, or you're simply trying to push too much power through it whilst it's new, they can take a tank full of liquid to be run in.

What's wrong with the vape for you on a lower setting? Just because the extra power is there, you don't have to use it.

I just use them until they stop working as well, i.e. I notice a difference. If I'm still getting the same vape from them, I don't see the need to change them and doing so every 2/3 days I'd go through tons of heads and thus increase the cost. It's already getting to the point where I really need to think about mixing my own liquids, as I reckon it's probably costing me about £2/day and although that's half what I was spending on ciggies, it's still more than I anticipated and eats into the savings I was expecting.

There's a quite different burnt taste with a new coil that hasn't been saturated with liquid yet and what I'm talking about is well after that's happened.

I don't like vaping on the lowest setting 3.3v, as I don't get much of a cloud unless it's at about 4.3v and I find it quite unsatisfying without that cloud. As I said, what's the point in buying (and selling) batteries that can be adjusted if we can't turn them up because of the burnt taste problem? I couldn't estimate how much it increase the costs of the batteries but there's obviously going to be some extra cost in making them adjustable, rather than just fixed at 3.3v.

 

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Jan 13, 2015 13:17:10 GMT doveman said:

Jan 8, 2015 19:29:52 GMT Perpetua said:

2 weeks is really too long doveman to go between changes for many coils and eliquids to get the nicest possible vape, especially if you like dessert/sweet vapes. Some of mine that aren't in exclusive use, I change them every 2/3 days. I'd have a go at recoiling with the FT ready coils, which are extremely reasonable and simple to use - so the temptation isn't to use them for too long.

If you're getting a burnt taste on new coils, then you're either not letting the coil become saturated with liquid before using it and it's not wicking well, or you're simply trying to push too much power through it whilst it's new, they can take a tank full of liquid to be run in.

What's wrong with the vape for you on a lower setting? Just because the extra power is there, you don't have to use it.

I just use them until they stop working as well, i.e. I notice a difference. If I'm still getting the same vape from them, I don't see the need to change them and doing so every 2/3 days I'd go through tons of heads and thus increase the cost. It's already getting to the point where I really need to think about mixing my own liquids, as I reckon it's probably costing me about £2/day and although that's half what I was spending on ciggies, it's still more than I anticipated and eats into the savings I was expecting.

There's a quite different burnt taste with a new coil that hasn't been saturated with liquid yet and what I'm talking about is well after that's happened.

I don't like vaping on the lowest setting 3.3v, as I don't get much of a cloud unless it's at about 4.3v and I find it quite unsatisfying without that cloud. As I said, what's the point in buying (and selling) batteries that can be adjusted if we can't turn them up because of the burnt taste problem? I couldn't estimate how much it increase the costs of the batteries but there's obviously going to be some extra cost in making them adjustable, rather than just fixed at 3.3v.

 

Sorry if it's been answered but I'll quickly flicked through and will try and answer your last post.

yes look at mixing to save money on juice, add more VG for clouds, look at a RBA such as the Kayfun to save money on coils and running at higher watts/volts power.  You can turn your mod/battery up as high as you want but your atty (think you said protank) will have a limit, you will also knock out coils quicker at higher watts (power). More heat,more burnt juice etc round the coil.  Also Google (your coil here) dry burning and watch a YouTube video to get some more life from the ones you have.   

[doveman]

Jan 13, 2015 14:22:33 GMT @letsavit said:

Sorry if it's been answered but I'll quickly flicked through and will try and answer your last post.

yes look at mixing to save money on juice, add more VG for clouds, look at a RBA such as the Kayfun to save money on coils and running at higher watts/volts power.  You can turn your mod/battery up as high as you want but your atty (think you said protank) will have a limit, you will also knock out coils quicker at higher watts (power). More heat,more burnt juice etc round the coil.  Also Google (your coil here) dry burning and watch a YouTube video to get some more life from the ones you have.   

Thanks for the tips. I'll have a look at dry burning.

For mixing, it seems it's cheapest to get the VG and PG from e-bay

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vegetable-Glycerine-Glycerol-USP-Food-Cosmetic-Grade-Kosher-5-Sizes-/121212171525?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Lab_Supplies_ET&var=&hash=item1c38cef505

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Propylene-Glycol-MPG-Food-Grade-99-9-Pure-USP-EP-UK-Trusted-Supplier/121076375221?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27676%26meid%3D8587116ee8c7415d8038fbd110959798%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D121212171525&rt=nc

I'm not sure how long it keeps though, so maybe I shouldn't buy more than 500ml at a time?

This is more expensive but it says it's pre-diluted from Pharmaceutical grade, whereas the e-bay ones just say Food grade, so I'm not sure if they're suitable to be used for vaping or need to be diluted.

www.thealchemistscupboard.co.uk/product/pg%20and%20vg

Does the nicotine liquid need to be kept in the freezer? I recall reading that somewhere but only have a small compartment in my fridge, so wouldn't be able to fit a large bottle in there.

[doveman]

Well I plucked up the courage to re-wick one of my microcoils. Dry burning the crud off the coil didn't go quite as in the video, as it just turned the crud into white stuff but once I knocked that off I had a nice clean coil underneath.

Re-wicking was a bit fiddly as the coil looks a lot smaller in reality than in the videos, so it's hard to see the hole to poke the wick through but I got there in the end. I can't say that it's working as well as when I first got it, maybe I'm just used to the virtual-vape flavours now, whereas when I first got the flavours and the microcoils I noticed a big difference but maybe I just didn't re-wick it very well (perhaps the cotton's too thick) so I'll see if I can improve it next time I do it.

I definitely get a better cloud with it though and can turn the battery up higher without getting the burnt taste I was getting when trying with the standard coils.

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Jan 16, 2015 0:42:37 GMT doveman said:

Well I plucked up the courage to re-wick one of my microcoils. Dry burning the crud off the coil didn't go quite as in the video, as it just turned the crud into white stuff but once I knocked that off I had a nice clean coil underneath.

Re-wicking was a bit fiddly as the coil looks a lot smaller in reality than in the videos, so it's hard to see the hole to poke the wick through but I got there in the end. I can't say that it's working as well as when I first got it, maybe I'm just used to the virtual-vape flavours now, whereas when I first got the flavours and the microcoils I noticed a big difference but maybe I just didn't re-wick it very well (perhaps the cotton's too thick) so I'll see if I can improve it next time I do it.

I definitely get a better cloud with it though and can turn the battery up higher without getting the burnt taste I was getting when trying with the standard coils.

Sorry mate, missed your other reply, quote or tag me

Dry burning them little coils doesn't always work, some it saves some it doesn't but yes burning and cleaning in between helps. See your using vape coils and getting the clouds you want that's good. 

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Jan 14, 2015 14:36:38 GMT doveman said:

Jan 13, 2015 14:22:33 GMT @letsavit said:

Sorry if it's been answered but I'll quickly flicked through and will try and answer your last post.

yes look at mixing to save money on juice, add more VG for clouds, look at a RBA such as the Kayfun to save money on coils and running at higher watts/volts power.  You can turn your mod/battery up as high as you want but your atty (think you said protank) will have a limit, you will also knock out coils quicker at higher watts (power). More heat,more burnt juice etc round the coil.  Also Google (your coil here) dry burning and watch a YouTube video to get some more life from the ones you have.   

Thanks for the tips. I'll have a look at dry burning.

For mixing, it seems it's cheapest to get the VG and PG from e-bay

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vegetable-Glycerine-Glycerol-USP-Food-Cosmetic-Grade-Kosher-5-Sizes-/121212171525?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Lab_Supplies_ET&var=&hash=item1c38cef505

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Propylene-Glycol-MPG-Food-Grade-99-9-Pure-USP-EP-UK-Trusted-Supplier/121076375221?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27676%26meid%3D8587116ee8c7415d8038fbd110959798%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D121212171525&rt=nc

I'm not sure how long it keeps though, so maybe I shouldn't buy more than 500ml at a time?

This is more expensive but it says it's pre-diluted from Pharmaceutical grade, whereas the e-bay ones just say Food grade, so I'm not sure if they're suitable to be used for vaping or need to be diluted.

www.thealchemistscupboard.co.uk/product/pg%20and%20vg

Does the nicotine liquid need to be kept in the freezer? I recall reading that somewhere but only have a small compartment in my fridge, so wouldn't be able to fit a large bottle in there.

If you haven't already then put a post up in the mixology section your get more replies mate...you can get VG (or is PG) for boots, I buy my stuff from everythingliquids and approved vendors here. Also chefs vapour for my flavourings and I'm a T-juice fan who do concentrates of all their juices. You only need to think freezer for longer term storage...to start with any cool dark place and your good for at least a year. 

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doverecigstore

With regards to your thread title which caught my eye, you know why it did because I was the same when I started I don't want you to stop vaping and fall back to fags. When I first started vaping I knew I was going give up smoking regardless, whatever it takes, have done it before and know I can cold Turkey when I have the will but yes life grabs you back to it. I went cold turkey twice for a day because vaping peed me off that much but stuck with it so make sure you do.....4months in now have all the gear etc. and still have days it pees me off and my fallback is a protank and istick, more than good enough, still my go to when I go out for a drink. Can't say I'm going to vape for the rest of my life but I can say it will always now be my fall back at the least.

[doveman]

Jan 16, 2015 1:06:09 GMT @letsavit said:

Jan 14, 2015 14:36:38 GMT doveman said:

Yeah thanks, I will. Been really busy lately and haven't had a chance to look into it further, so I've just ordered some more juices to keep me going but hopefully I'll get onto mixing my own before they run out.

I think I managed to knacker one of my microcoils when dry burning it, as it stopped glowing at all, which is a shame as I'd only rewicked it once. I've ordered another one as I've only got one left, so hopefully it won't happen again.

Regarding the tank, I was thinking of getting the Protank 3 as I want something bigger than my mini Protank 2 but a lot of the reviews on Amazon talk about problems with leaking and gurgling and difficulty unscrewing the base. I can see it's quite thin so might be hard to get a grip on it compared to the mini Protank. I found it quite cheap here but maybe that reflects the fact they're not selling very well: www.vapers-e-sense.co.uk/index.aspx?pageid=2720414&prodid=12197638

Would the Aerotank v2 www.fasttech.com/products/3006/10004861/1806904-authentic-kangertech-aerotank-v2-bcc-clearomizer or Aerotank Mega www.fasttech.com/products/3006/10004861/1746100-authentic-aerotank-mega-clearomizer be better options? The latter's 3.8ml compared to the 2.5ml of the Aerotank v2 or Protank v3 as well, so that will reduce the amount I need to refill it.

[doveman]

Jan 16, 2015 1:17:43 GMT @letsavit said:

doverecigstore

With regards to your thread title which caught my eye, you know why it did because I was the same when I started I don't want you to stop vaping and fall back to fags. When I first started vaping I knew I was going give up smoking regardless, whatever it takes, have done it before and know I can cold Turkey when I have the will but yes life grabs you back to it. I went cold turkey twice for a day because vaping peed me off that much but stuck with it so make sure you do.....4months in now have all the gear etc. and still have days it pees me off and my fallback is a protank and istick, more than good enough, still my go to when I go out for a drink. Can't say I'm going to vape for the rest of my life but I can say it will always now be my fall back at the least.

Thanks mate, appreciate the thought but don't worry, I haven't touched a cigarette or even been tempted in about 18 months now so I can't see myself relapsing, no matter how frustrated I might get with vaping sometimes. If anything, I'd probably resort to NRT patches if I somehow lost all my vaping gear. Before I discovered vaping I'd managed to quit cold turkey a few times (it's a lot easier when you don't need to leave the house or see other people very often, as there's no-one to take your irritablilty out on!) but it was all too easy to relapse when life got tough. Now I've got vaping to satisfy my cravings/habit, there's no problem

[tim]

I've only just read this thread and noticed nobody has asked...

what ohms atty are you trying to vape on?

You need to adjust your watts/volts to suit your coil/s. Too high for the the coil/s will give you a burnt taste. Once burnt, you need to re-wick.

[doveman]

Sorry for the delay in replying, I wasn't notified of your post.

I'm using a mini Protank 2 with 2.2ohm heads I think. Sometimes I use an iclear16 as well.

I'm so over trying to use those micro coils. I've bought three now and two I think I managed to break the first time I changed the wick and the third I managed to change it once or twice before breaking it. I find it almost impossible to roll up a strip of cotton small enough to go through the coil which is also thick enough to block the holes at each end to prevent the head from getting flooded, especially as I have to remove the silicone seal to get it to screw into my mini Protank properly. Just pulling the cotton through the coil seems to dislodge it and stop it working and it's obviously not economical to pay a lot extra for a microcoil that I only get to use once.

I still want to get a new, bigger, tank for my Clover 2600mAh VV batteries (I've got a second on the way from Fasttech as my original 1500mAh VV battery seems to be knackered and only lasts a few hours) but my friend's lent me his old mod with electronic controls and LCD to set the wattage and I think I want to get one of those to use as my main unit, as I'm a bit fed up with having to keep checking my VV spinners before vaping, as they turn too easily in my pocket, so if I'm not careful I end up vaping on 4.4v and just get a nasty burnt taste.

I also find the airflow's much better with the tanks (not sure which ones) my friends are using on their mods, so it's not like sucking on a solid object and the clouds are much better, both of which I like. I don't have an adapter to fit my mini Protank on the mod I've borrowed (and it would look pretty silly anyway). I do have an iClear 30 which fits but the airflow's terrible, so it's even worse sucking on that than my mini Protank and it also tends to leak out of the bottom all over the mod, so I've stopped using that. It wasn't really suitable for the mod anyway, as I couldn't really set it above 10w without it giving a burnt taste, so the cloud wasn't great, certainly not compared to whatever tanks my friends were using which were OK at 20-25W.

So I'm looking for recommendations for a bigger tank (at least 3ml, preferably 5ml) to use with my Clover VV spinners and the mod, probably two separate tanks actually as even if I can get one that will fit both (maybe with an adapter) it will better to have a couple so that I can easily swap flavours and not have to keep moving a single tank between the two.

I was looking at the full-sized Protank v2 for my Clovers but then I read some negative reviews of them which suggested they were worse than the mini Protank v2. How about the Protank v3, is that much better?

I've also started making my own flavours. Haven't done many yet but I've got the base ingredients, just need to get some more pots and flavours. My friend was going to lend me his old dual-coil dripper and I loved how easy it is to change the wick on those, as the coils are much bigger. Unfortunately it wasn't working properly and two out of three of the mods we tried it with only worked intermittently and kept saying "No atomizer", so he's taken it home to re-coil and try and fix. I don't know if there's any tanks I can get for a mod that will let me replace the coils, or at least use large coils that are easy to re-wick, like a dripper but if so that might be the most economical option, rather than using ready-made disposable heads.

[prr]

doveman if you want send me your protank heads and I will microcoil and wick them for you, pm me and I will give you my Addy.