the interview

[Montana]

Sorry , I'd like to know what's so wrong with plumbers ?


Andy

[Raffles]

Jan 5, 2015 22:16:12 GMT Montana said:

Sorry , I'd like to know what's so wrong with plumbers ?


Andy

Because you're never here when I need you

[Montana]

Jan 5, 2015 22:19:23 GMT Raffles said:

Jan 5, 2015 22:16:12 GMT Montana said:

Sorry , I'd like to know what's so wrong with plumbers ?


Andy

Because you're never here when I need you

But you haven't rung me yet 

Andy

[Deleted]

Jan 5, 2015 22:26:39 GMT Montana said:

Jan 5, 2015 22:19:23 GMT Raffles said:

Because you're never here when I need you

But you haven't rung me yet 

Andy

Apparently it's not you, it is all the other plumbers.

[chykensa]

As a teacher, albeit a peripatetic music teacher, but working full-time in both primary and secondary schools, I will not comment too much on this for fear of further inciting the natives.
Suffice it to ask how many of you have done 4 hours work this evening for which you will never be paid money for? In the course of a week I probably do at least 20 hours of unpaid preparation, arranging music, writing reports and emailing and phoning my team to check all is well with their work ( I don't fall under Teachers Pay and Conditions, so am not allowed a small proportion of this as paid for in my contract). This is all 'part of the job', and 'goes with the territory'. Sometimes I wish I could have a job which ended with the strike of a clock, and which doesn't enter my thoughts until the start of the next working day. Sometimes I wish I could do something easy, where I don't have to think about everything I say and do, and have such influence over a child's development.
But then I would miss out on the chance to see that spark of creativity, of understanding and fulfillment, and most of all the joy of making music 'just for the hell of it'! There is nothing more satisfying than helping a child get to grips with a new technique, finding alternative ways of explaining until the 'lightbulb' moment happens, and then standing back and listening as they bloom into rounded young musicians.
That's why I work many more hours than I am paid for, and why school holidays are so welcome. People say 'the terms are too long; the children are burnt out by the end of them'. Spare a thought for the person who essentially cares for your child for 7 hours a day and then does all the relevant paperwork once that child has left for home. Don't they deserve time to recharge too?

Right, coat-rack's on the left, right? Thought I showed considerable restraint there . . .

[Edge]

Jan 5, 2015 22:38:52 GMT chykensa said:

As a teacher, albeit a peripatetic music teacher, but working full-time in both primary and secondary schools, I will not comment too much on this for fear of further inciting the natives.
Suffice it to ask how many of you have done 4 hours work this evening for which you will never be paid money for? In the course of a week I probably do at least 20 hours of unpaid preparation, arranging music, writing reports and emailing and phoning my team to check all is well with their work ( I don't fall under Teachers Pay and Conditions, so am not allowed a small proportion of this as paid for in my contract). This is all 'part of the job', and 'goes with the territory'. Sometimes I wish I could have a job which ended with the strike of a clock, and which doesn't enter my thoughts until the start of the next working day. Sometimes I wish I could do something easy, where I don't have to think about everything I say and do, and have such influence over a child's development.
But then I would miss out on the chance to see that spark of creativity, of understanding and fulfillment, and most of all the joy of making music 'just for the hell of it'! There is nothing more satisfying than helping a child get to grips with a new technique, finding alternative ways of explaining until the 'lightbulb' moment happens, and then standing back and listening as they bloom into rounded young musicians.
That's why I work many more hours than I am paid for, and why school holidays are so welcome. People say 'the terms are too long; the children are burnt out by the end of them'. Spare a thought for the person who essentially cares for your child for 7 hours a day and then does all the relevant paperwork once that child has left for home. Don't they deserve time to recharge too?

Right, coat-rack's on the left, right? Thought I showed considerable restraint there . . .

That is why teachers should be applauded.
We expect you to care for, entertain and educate our children.

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Jan 5, 2015 22:38:52 GMT chykensa said:

As a teacher, albeit a peripatetic music teacher, but working full-time in both primary and secondary schools, I will not comment too much on this for fear of further inciting the natives.
Suffice it to ask how many of you have done 4 hours work this evening for which you will never be paid money for? In the course of a week I probably do at least 20 hours of unpaid preparation, arranging music, writing reports and emailing and phoning my team to check all is well with their work ( I don't fall under Teachers Pay and Conditions, so am not allowed a small proportion of this as paid for in my contract). This is all 'part of the job', and 'goes with the territory'. Sometimes I wish I could have a job which ended with the strike of a clock, and which doesn't enter my thoughts until the start of the next working day. Sometimes I wish I could do something easy, where I don't have to think about everything I say and do, and have such influence over a child's development.
But then I would miss out on the chance to see that spark of creativity, of understanding and fulfillment, and most of all the joy of making music 'just for the hell of it'! There is nothing more satisfying than helping a child get to grips with a new technique, finding alternative ways of explaining until the 'lightbulb' moment happens, and then standing back and listening as they bloom into rounded young musicians.
That's why I work many more hours than I am paid for, and why school holidays are so welcome. People say 'the terms are too long; the children are burnt out by the end of them'. Spare a thought for the person who essentially cares for your child for 7 hours a day and then does all the relevant paperwork once that child has left for home. Don't they deserve time to recharge too?

Right, coat-rack's on the left, right? Thought I showed considerable restraint there . . .

You put your coat back on the rack and stay exactly where you are. Well said.

I am well into my fifties and remember the "common sense" approach to schooling very well. Looking back it is was little more than violence rather than a gentle and loving tap just to let us know our place. An entire class canned with with a hockey stick - just so that we would remember not to forget homework diaries, a blackboard rubber thrown a full speed speed at at 13 year old because he simply made a joke out load. He had a nasty gash just below his eye. A pervert teacher watching us as we got changed for swimming. I am calling BS on this. Violence is never ever ever the right option. The teachers that I really remember where the ones that inspired me, not the ones that hit me.

Common sense my arse


/rant